[ SECRET POST #4150 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4150 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm done making excuses for Trump lovers. Fuck you like you fucked my country. Die in a fire. Will not support with my eyeballs or my wallet.

[(Anonymous)]

You're determined to hand 2020 right over to him again, aren't you?

[(Anonymous)]

Trump voters are fucking morons who lack the brain power to realize they've fucked themselves in their pursuit to fuck up everyone else. The only strategy is to outnumber the fucking idiots by making sure Dems FUCKING VOTE THIS TIME, ASSHOLES, and get the swing voters to NOT WASTE YOUR FUCKING VOTE ON A GREEN PARTY FUCKER.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, field a better candidate and I might vote differently this time. It's on you folks, find .someone who doesn't suck..

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Pretty much any candidate would suck less than Trump. I would love a perfect option, but I'm definitely willing to take flawed if the alternative is Trump.

[(Anonymous)]

LMAO

Alienating your own party is sure to help!

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously fuck off.

[(Anonymous)]

I see it as the USA managed to vote in a man who embodies the ugliest of American stereotypes. A narcissistic, idiotic buffoon. I feel terrible for the millions of Americans who can't stand him. To those who STILL support him, you've outed yourself as racist and sexist and an embarassment to the American people, as hw is

[(Anonymous)]

I feel so sorry for you guys. You genuinely can't see that you're handing him another term with this rhetoric. It would piss me off if I hadn't abandoned all hope for the left.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

what kind of rhetoric would be successful, and why

[(Anonymous)]

DA
Except he is racist, as evidenced by so many of his remarks, like "both sides", he is narcissistic, as evidenced by all of his posturing for attention and validation (why is he so insistent that his inaugural crowd was the largest ever, for example?), and he is idiotic, which has been said by several people who are supposedly on his side (either outright calling him a moron or saying things like he refuses to read so they have to present things to him in sound bites). So what rhetoric are you talking about here and what do you think would work better? I mean a big dividing line is the race issue, but I refuse to think of or treat minorities as lesser to win votes.

[(Anonymous)]

SA
Oh, I forgot the sexist part of the earlier anon's "rhetoric", but c'mon, that has been obvious at least since "grab 'em by the pussy."

Trump is these things. Anyone supporting him is at a minimum at least willing to condone these things, even if not outright 100% believing in these things themselves. Plus condoning previously unheard of levels of lying.

Like my mother has been a staunch conservative for years, and she sees all of this in Trump and is absolutely unwilling to support him and thinks he is a disgrace. I am/was a conservative who voted for George W. Bush and refused to vote for Trump because he is beyond awful in so many ways. I can understand having voted for him for a handful of reasons, even if I did not. I cannot understand continuing to support him. FFS, one of his aides said that John McCain doesn't matter because he'll die soon. And Trump and his administration see nothing wrong with that and no need to apologize. How fucked up is that?

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT—so what would convince you (or people who share your worldview if you’re not from the US) to vote for a Democratic candidate?

I get that being condescended to and disagreed with sucks, but it sucks more to be hated and feared because you’re not white or straight or Christian. Because everybody, not just straight white rich Christians, has been condescended to and disagreed with at some point. But condescension and disagreement aren’t discrimination or bigotry. They might hurt your feelings, but they won’t kill you, by inches or instantly, like some kinds of bigotry might.

Speaking as a person who usually votes for liberal candidates and policies, I rarely respect politicians even in my own party. Why should I respect those in the Republican party who hate me and my friends and family not because of our political views but because we exist? I don’t know if you’re the same anon who claimed upthread that being anti-Muslim and anti-trans was a political viewpoint, but being Muslim or trans is not a political position. They don’t hurt anyone by existing. A vanishingly small number of Muslims commit acts of terrorism, just like a vanishingly small number of men become school shooters.

The way you phrase your condemnation of liberals makes it sound like your main or even only issue with them is that they’re condescending toward you and/or people you identify with. Do you believe the conservatives in power are on your side and view you as their equal, or what?

Speaking for myself, I think most career politicians would look down on me personally. But my belief doesn’t influence my vote nearly as much as the kind of policies they (say they will and occasionally even do) vote for.

I might be missing something because my self-esteem is measured in negative numbers, but why is a condescending lack of respect the worst sin a politician can commit toward you? Aren’t you worried their policies might separate you from your family and friends and life (travel bans and ICE crackdowns), permanently fuck up your health or beggar you (screwing with Obamacare and Medicaid), poison your neighborhood (EPA deregulation), and on and on? I wish a potential loss of pride was my biggest problem. Why is it yours? Aren’t you worried about anything else?