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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-27 04:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #569 ]


⌈ Secret Post #569 ⌋

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Little early today, might be late with edits. Fleshbag exoskeleton is giving out on me.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-28 09:49 am (UTC)(link)
See, everyone gives me a list of counters like that when I even mention liking the theory. It's depressing :/

It's hard to sum up everything I see that hints at it. Rinoa's speech aboard the Ragnarok about how she just wants time to stand still; the fact that Ultimecia's possession of her is completely unlike every other possession we see in the game -- Edea didn't give off the faded after-image, nor did she glow like Rinoa does on the space station. Her movements weren't jerky and puppetlike while she was possessed. A friend who does like this theory brought this point up, actually, before I'd thought of it, and mentioned that it might be some form of feedback, which I actually really like the concept of.

We're never given a reason for Ultimecia wanting to abridge time. I don't think, even if she was Rinoa, that it's as simple as wanting to find a probably-dead Squall. I think there's other factors behind it; Rinoa's life hasn't been the greatest in the world, and she'd have every reason to want to suspend it. The most information we're given about Time Compression is that it would make Ultimecia all-powerful. Odine even says, "We don't know why she'd want to do this, so let's not think about it." The game makes a point of avoiding giving you any reason. Admittedly, this is probably just Square and the case of the approaching deadline, but it gives some ground.

The wing parallels are too pronounced and significant to be ignored. Every sorceress we've seen seems to have some defining, almost animalistic feature -- Edea has her bird mask, and her movements are even somewhat avian. Adel has antenna hair. Why would there be such a similarity in Rinoa and Ultimecia?

And this is probably on your list of counters, but I genuinely believe there has to be more reason to Ultimecia's castle being built over Edea's field than just as a symbol of victory.

I approach this theory a bit differently from most people, actually -- I kind of buy into this "time loop" theory I've seen discussed and ficced once or twice. In some world, somewhere out there, something happens to Squall -- most likely, he gets trapped or lost in Time Compression, at the end of the game, and he never returns. This drives Rinoa insane, she gradually becomes Ultimecia. (May I also point out, it's never mentioned how far in the future Ultimecia lives? Just a thought. Sorceresses don't necessarily have to be immortal for this theory to work.) She forces herself through time compression trying to reverse what happened to Squall, and even though she dies in the process, it somehow works -- and then we see the ending of the game that happens "for real."

I like the concept because it ties Ultimecia into the main plot much better than she was before. It explains why her possession of Rinoa is so completely strange compared to that of Edea. It explains Griever. It gives Ultimecia's last speech, in her final form, tons more weight, if you interpret it as coming from a future, warped Rinoa.

Perhaps I shouldn't have said canon, but "headcanon" is closer to what matches. I'm aware Square said no, but I see too many hints and possibilities to dismiss it entirely.