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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-05-26 03:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #4161 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4161 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-05-26 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I feel like that moment (and possibly that entire season) has aged really phenomenally well. Used to feel corny, now feels a lot more sincere and normal imo.
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[personal profile] dahli 2018-05-26 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2018-05-26 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that kind of approach is more narratively surprising. Like, we're so used to SHOCKING DEATH that it really loses its shock, but against that context, "Everybody lives!" becomes a truly twist ending.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-26 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I must admit that I never found that moment corny and just the look of sheer joy on Nine's face made me tear up, but I also saw Nine's run after Eleven's, so maybe that had something to do with it.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-26 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree! I need happy endings!
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-05-26 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, my family, I feel you. I am so sick of depression. I had to look into the avengers before I went to see it, and finding out what I found I know I cannot go and see it. I'm sick of being depressed by media. I am so fucking sick of it.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-27 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't as big a fan of Infinity War because of this reason. Yes, they'll most probably reverse a lot of what has happened, but not for all characters. I found it too dark and depressing and am puzzled why so many people loved it so much (apart from the obvious reason that it goes against expectations.)
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2018-05-27 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
I'm in this really weird place where I don't think it's a bad film, it's actually quite good if you've been here for the long haul. But yes it's also depressing. I went to see it a second time and cried even more during the opening before anything had actually happened because I knew what was coming. But I also didn't cry at all at the end (unlike the first time) because I know all those people will be undone next year whereas those first two death won't be and I'm upset about it for being that way but also upset beyond my attachment to one of the characters. It just feels like almost everything I loved best about the MCU was considered an inconvenience and needed to be blown up/killed.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-27 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I loved that moment so much!

(Anonymous) 2018-05-27 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
There's a Timothy Zahn quote from a 2008 interview that I saw floating around tumblr recently:

"I often hear the argument that having major characters die is more realistic than having them always come through unscathed. Of course it is. But I personally don't want my fiction to necessarily be 'realistic.' I want my fiction to be entertaining. For me, that means watching engaging characters I care about get into and out of dangerous predicaments, working and thinking together in order to defeat the bad guys. While some authors (and readers) like the tension of wondering who will live and who will die, I prefer the tension of seeing how the heroes are going to think or work their ways out of each difficult or impossible situation they find themselves in. If I want realism and the deaths of people I care about, I can turn on the news."

(Anonymous) 2018-05-27 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'll co-sign this quote. Well said.

I don't mind the idea of character deaths in stories in and of themselves-done right it can be a powerful, moving storyline (and depending on the circumstances with a movie/show, sometimes they may not have a choice but to kill the character off-like if the actor dies, for instance).

But character deaths should also be used sparingly, because death is such a shocking situation much of the time, and death is something that changes the story and the characters who mourn dramatically to some degree. If you've got people dying left and right on shows, it risks getting to the point where it takes away the impact and emotion of such a weighty, significant, important storyline.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-27 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
That's a good quote. I think too many people conflate "realistic" and "well done" and "entertaining". If I had a dollar for every time someone said, "I don't like X" and someone else went, "But X is realistic!!!!" as if that wasn't a non sequitur. /sigh