[ SECRET POST #4183 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4183 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I believe in demons. I've witnessed things at least I think were demon possession. But still I agree with you. And honestly, the times that were possession (I think) the person didn't act mentally ill. And generally all that was necessary was prayer, not elaborate rituals that physically harm the person.

I think that as long as you aren't harming the person, you can go both ways. Cover all your bridges. Mental health treatment and prayer/whatever. But the minute you are skipping the mental health treatment and/or performing rituals that are hurting the person, you are not helping anyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Atheist here who had folks want to do exorcisms on me when I was still a believer: I agree with you that a lot of folks expecting exorcism to cure mental distress and trauma can do harm by ignoring valid methods of treatment done by medical professionals.

The only thing I can amend further to this post is that with putting a person through exorcism, it's often puts the innocent person in a bad-looking position, placing a stigma on them when the issues surrounding the person could be to blame instead (e.g. bullying causing a child to become withdrawn and the family choosing to insist on prayer over helping the child get proper help from the school). Especially when the innocent person comes to their family for support and care for legitimate pain, having their family instead insist that their problems are unusual, unlikely, inhuman, or not understandable/relatable can be very damaging and isolating.

[(Anonymous)]

I grew up with an abusive. alcoholic father. I knew what he, and it, looked like quite well. Growing up I saw it on the regular. But there were a handful of times, in those last years, when what I saw looking out of his eyes at me was not my father, abusive alcoholic or not. I firmly believe, because of that amoung other things, that there is more going on than our human senses are aware of.

But I also firmly believe that my dad's problem was alcoholism, not demonic possession, and what looked out at me those times might have been banished with prayer but the root of the problem was entirely my father's making and wouldn't stop until my father took the human steps necessary to get help and recover. (I'm not saying mental illness is the same as my father's alcoholism. He made decisions all along the way that people struggling with metal illness don't get the choice to make. Just that I'm inclined to believe that the demonic isn't the cause, so much as often just a rider on the root of the real problem (also not saying I think the vast majority of mental issues or alcoholics have riders like that, just that I saw one, once upon a time)(I haven't seen it for decades btw. Dad got the treatment he needed and he's been sober for years now)