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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-06-23 03:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #4189 ]


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[personal profile] feotakahari 2018-06-23 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I’ve seen alternate history with everything from redeemed Robert E Lee to tyrannical George Washington. Alternate theology doesn’t seem so different as a thought experiment.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-23 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Honest question, but why do you feel guilty, OP? I was raised Catholic and have no problem enjoying stuff like Trinity Blood.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-23 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
You should try reading Lost Christianities," OP, maybe that would help with the guilt? There's nothing I've seen or read fiction-wise that tops what a lot of early Christians believed and wrote.

As an example, quite a bit of Christianity was shaped by Augustine's headcanon, and as a gnostic, he held a lot of heretical beliefs. I don't think you need to be worry about enjoying this stuff unless we experience another Inquisition (Nobody expects it, after all). :)

(Anonymous) 2018-06-23 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Hear, hear.

I would pay good money to read the alternative Evangiles from Élisaeth Vonarburg's uchronias.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-23 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
considering most of the stuff your church is telling you about the devil is actually from pre-christian/early christian cult mythology, old literature, and old headcanons from the church-sanctioned "learned," you're pretty safe. I like above anon's recommendation, I'm going to look up that book myself. it sounds interesting.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-24 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
"I'm a christian, and also I enjoy fiction which uses symbols, characters, elements, and icons with the greatest possible emotional and philosophical resonance with me personally"

the entire wealth of the world's mythologies springs from people loving stories that explore the possibilities of the very sincere beliefs of both their authors and audiences. Including *reams* of medieval christian folktales, by the way, from which much of our modern angel and devil ideas are descended

I call this genre "celestial fantasy" and I think it makes perfect sense that it would appeal to you, and you should embrace it! You don't like those stories because they somehow undermine your beliefs, but because your beliefs lend weight and meaning to the bones of the stories. And that's pretty cool!
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[personal profile] liz_marcs 2018-06-24 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my God! Someone else who remembers "To Reign in Hell!"

YES!

I remember reading that book when I was in high school. I was one of those nerds who'd bring whatever book she was reading to school to read between classes and shit. I remember bringing that book to school and everyone Freaking. The Fuck. Out.

(Did I mention I went to a Catholic High School? Because I totally did!)

The nuns were so incensed, that called my parents in for a parent-teacher meeting. They then got on them about my choice of reading materials and were they aware of what I was reading.

And my dad calmly looked those teachers in the eye and said, "One, it's my book. Two, I read it first. And three, I recommended it to my daughter as something she'd like."

Those nuns never bugged me (or my parents) again about my book choices.
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2018-06-24 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Well, as other commenters have pointed out, pretty much all of Christianity since Jesus was alive is some form of alternative theology. So there's no reason to feel guilty about enjoying other fictional interpretations of it. :} As a Christian myself, alternative interpretations of the religion (and really, any religion) are one of my favorite genres. I'm even working on my own novel along those lines. I find alternative theology a good way to explore what I believe and why, and to look at the ideas from someone else's perspective. Nothing wrong with that, and in fact I think it's something quite worthwhile to engage in from time to time.

The 'g' in guilty got a little cut off, so I first read that as you feeling quilty.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-24 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
And I wondered if you were quilting up, like, cross-stitch scenes of the alternate versions. I realized then that it was 'guilty' and I was disappointed.

Re: The 'g' in guilty got a little cut off, so I first read that as you feeling quilty.

(Anonymous) 2018-06-24 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I would like to see those quilts.