[ SECRET POST #575 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #575 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[cdaae.livejournal.com]

or you're wielding some sort of badly aimed preemptive strike because you know you opinion isn't the same as the majority, and that makes you so very special and put-upon.

Either you are understandably cynical from many years on the internet, or you're projecting. I don't think I'm special or put-upon when I think something popular is crap; I just don't feel the need not to say what I think because other people might be butthurt over it. "Harshly insulting" a film does not make someone a troll. As for "harshly insulting" the people who enjoyed it, no. If I'd said "I think the people who loved this movie must be cretins with no inkling of what makes a good movie, and are probably the same kind of people who think McDonald's food is equal to five star cuisine", that would be harshly insulting them (and no, I don't think that).

If my intention had been to post a thoughtful review or "balanced argument" I would have pointed to various aspects of the movie which I thought were crap. My intention wasn't to post a thoughtful review, it was just a brief rant in reaction to the huge numbers of secrets over the past week from people loving the movie, employing a similar degree of hyperbole.

If I'd actually wanted to be obnoxious and cause trouble, I would have gone through and replied to the comments by all the people who loved the movie telling them what I thought.

[(Anonymous)]

If I'd actually wanted to be obnoxious and cause trouble, I would have gone through and replied to the comments by all the people who loved the movie telling them what I thought.

now, THAT is a fantastic notion. why didn't I think of that?

[miarr.livejournal.com]

My theory is that they've been lacing the soft drinks at cinemas with E or crack, and the rest of you have been drinking it, because WHY SO FUCKING SERIOUSLY OVERRATED, YOU GUYS???

Phrasing your insult as a question does not make it any less of an insult. I realize it may not have been your intent, which is nice, but questioning someone's taste by saying "what the hell, are you on drugs?" can't really be interpreted as anything other than condescending. I honestly have no beef with you, I'm just pointing out that the internet requires a certain measure of tact which the original comment was lacking. Your subsequent posts were much better phrased.

[(Anonymous)]

[(Anonymous)]

[miarr.livejournal.com]

Didn't you know? :O

[(Anonymous)]

you use IE? that's so lame.

[miarr.livejournal.com]

Ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem)? Pfft, you lose.

[(Anonymous)]

oh, u 2 smrt 4 me

[cdaae.livejournal.com]

I guess I disagree that the internet requires tact. What I said here is the same as what I said when chatting about the movie afterwards with my neighbours (we were split half and half between those who thought it was great, and those who thought it was crap). Their response was pretty much just "ha ha, you wasted ten quid, sucks to be you".

I think of F!S as more akin to a conversation down the pub than a forum for serious review.

[miarr.livejournal.com]

Technically, the internet doesn't require anything, aside from a functioning computer and a connection. I suppose it'd be more accurate to say that tact is required in forum discussions as a prerequisite to not being considered a troll. Obviously not all people on the internet consider F!S a figurative pub, and as a gesture of respect towards these people, one might consider talking to them not as if they were one's neighbours, but as if they were strangers. Which, in fact, they are. With neighbours or friends, mockery can take on an affectionate tone; strangers do not have that added affinity, and interpret mockery for what it is: derision.

I'm not saying it's horrible to take up a casual tone of voice in public forums, but be aware that your words may be interpreted by people who aren't nearly so fraternal, and who might take them at face value.

[(Anonymous)]

You said that anyone who enjoyed it must have also enjoyed drugged beverages from the cinema. Implying not only that drugs were needed to enjoy the film, but that there was some sort of mass brainwashing going on, unnoticed, amongst the viewers - and that you were exempt from this, being so much better than the rest of us plebes.

Maybe this was not your intention. It's still the way you came across. Communication is a matter of connotations and interpretation, especially in a text-only forum. I found your comment to be unnecessarily antagonistic, as I previously stated. No, harshly insulting a film does not make you a troll.

Stating a dissenting statement in a forum using antagonistic phrasing, however, is pretty much the definition of a troll.

[(Anonymous)]

I did do drugs while watching it. And, it still sucked anus.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel for you and your waste of a high.

[(Anonymous)]

thank you. it's six hours of my life i'll never get back.

[cdaae.livejournal.com]

No, I was exempt from it because I didn't have a coke.

[(Anonymous)]

I also didn't have a coke. Or anything else bought from a cinema. Because they're money hungry cunts who make so much profit on popcorn sales that they shouldn't need to have ticket prices so high or employee wages so low. Not that I had my soul crushed by working for an international chain or anything.

I digress - I also didn't have a coke, nor was I on any substances voluntarily. But I did enjoy the film, a lot.

[cdaae.livejournal.com]

Because they're money hungry cunts who make so much profit on popcorn sales that they shouldn't need to have ticket prices so high or employee wages so low.

No kidding. Some of my urge to rant about it undoubtably came from feeling pissed off that I'd spent £10 getting there and seeing it!

[(Anonymous)]

£10? Seriously? And that wasn't someplace like IMAX? I thought CineWorld was bad D:

[cdaae.livejournal.com]

Nope! Well, it was £7.50 for the film, but there was also the cost of getting there as my tiny little town doesn't have a cinema.

Everything is so goddamn expensive these days.

[(Anonymous)]

We have two. And they compete quite fiercely, so the prices jump around all the time. Still, that said, I have a student card, or stick to Orange Wednesdays.

[cdaae.livejournal.com]

I really should have gone on a weekday afternoon, but I wanted to go with a friend so I was stuck with Saturday. Ah well, such is life!

[(Anonymous)]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, thank you for backing up my point for me.

[(Anonymous)]

i just wanted to be edgy by posting a link to UD