[ SECRET POST #4192 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4192 ⌋

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Comments

[feotakahari]

Well, there’s always His Dark Materials.

(Do not read His Dark Materials. It is overrated and frustrating.)

[(Anonymous)]

I thought the first book was pretty good, but... the second book was dull and the third infuriating.

All that great potential, frittered away on asskissing.

[(Anonymous)]

At this point they might be underrated because people have been calling them overrated for so long? I don't even know.

The thing with them is that the first book is basically perfect, and the second and third books are deeply and painfully flawed, but they're flawed in ways that are very visible when you're first reading them, and you don't have a roadmap for what to expect, but that maybe get somewhat easier to overlook as time goes by. It's kind of up to the reader to decide whether they want to deal with Pullman's didactic atheism, the same way that you can make a choice whether or not you want to deal with Lewis' religiosity.

IMO

[(Anonymous)]

what's wrong with his dark materials?

[(Anonymous)]

people hate obvious conviction in literature

I'm being sarcastic but like. only a little. and I think some of the hate for pullman's didacticism is actually hate for shitty things he's said in interviews that people read back into the books

and some of it is just....people who really liked the first book, which was a sparkling gem of weird worldbuilding and childhood adventures but 100% still had all the anti-church stuff in it, and by book 3 it's thundering wagnerian celestial fantasy with an axe to grind and a side of super weird awesome scifi, but as someone who likes childhood adventures AND epic celestial fantasy AND the bizarreness that was the mulefa, I loved it all the way through

and i think some of 'he's got an axe to grind and it's boring and it's the wooorst' is really just people not being into the genres and tones it becomes as the one it started in

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I really need to go back and reread the latter two books especially. I remember feeling that the anti-religious messaging really did get significantly more drastic and annoying in the third book, but it's possible that you're right and that I'd feel differently about it now. I do think a lot of it has to do with people not quite grasping all the genre and tonal shifts.

also, this is a really good post generally, and do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to or, like, a twitter I can follow or something

[(Anonymous)]

Well, dont read book 3.

I loved 1 and 2 as a kid.

[(Anonymous)]

His Dark Materials was basically written as an anti-Narnia, right?

[(Anonymous)]

Do read His Dark Materials- it's a delight!

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

I strongly disagree and would highly recommend it.