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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-07-10 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #4206 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4206 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-10 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
For both of these it depends what part of fandom you're in. Steven Universe has some real shitty parts too... unless you've forgotten about antis and the whole Zamiii thing that was super shitty.

The shows are both cool but.... I wouldn't agree that SU fandom as a whole is too much better than MLP fandom in some parts.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-10 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
You think SU fandom is that much of an improvement? Really?

(Anonymous) 2018-07-10 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
To be totally honest the fandom is chill/fun if you hang out on places not populated by 14 year olds on Tumblr. Even on Tumblr you can choose not to be around people who troll and harass others very easily.

The show has some neat messages and ongoing mysteries to pick up on so that's what ordinary fans get excited about.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-10 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Even on Tumblr you can choose not to be around people who troll and harass others very easily.

I'm sure that why the harassment in that fandom never gets that bad. /s

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you were ever going to be open to hearing things you don't want to hear, but pretty much on Tumblr if this very same conversation was taking place I'd just block you and that'd be the end of the conversation.

To be fair to anybody who has suffered severe harassment, I feel bad for them of course. I know these things can happen especially to popular artists who draw in a big audience, large enough for the rare shit-starter to show up. However I don't blame that as an issue with any fandom, but instead an issue with shitty purity culture kids who are only just a small amount of users on tumblr.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yes, I'm not a harasser who'd create a new account to harass you, nor do I've hundreds of followers willing to harass other people for me, so we would never talk again and I'd be okay with that.

But that doesn't change that SU fandom is one of those fandoms where that's common enough that anyone who isn't a NNF can get hit by it. Not all fandoms are like that tho, despite shitty purity culture (which doesn't involved just kids fyi).

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
+1

SU fandom is really nice. *shrug*

People conflate the zamii thing with the entire fandom, which is just... inaccurate. Zamii had a dedicated hatedom before joining SU fandom - not saying that's okay at all, but it's not like the entire fandom jumped her.

OP

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
SU fandom has a lot more abuse wank and minority representation wank, but it doesn’t attract the monarchists, it doesn’t attract the harem fans, it doesn’t attract the furries, it doesn’t attract the religious freaks, and for some reason, it doesn’t attract much Spacebattles.com. It’s got less of the pedophiles, too, though they do exist.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know what some of those things are...

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah "minority wank" and "abuse wank" and OH NO the furries.

Meanwhile purity wankers viciously go after people who do fan art , fan fic or headcanoning "wrong" and will go and tell people -including minors to kill themselves , and that they're disguisting - demanding people who cope ship to tell everyone what their trauma is and have it "graded" by vicious bullies. and tell survivors who disagree that supporting fictional people kissing makes them as bad as their abuser. I've heard of these types making servers where they show minor antis-in-training actual nsfw to tell them why its bad, doxxing minors and kids in fucking high school because they "don't deserve to feel safe" (actual words they said)

That's all the purity folks do, No harm right? Not nearly as bad as those others right?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Not sure why you're assuming MLP doesn't do this as well as all the other things that were listed.

Re: OP

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Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Different anon you're talking to

Adults can avoid them if they know what to do. Kids, are well, kids. Purity culture folks lurk in all fandoms though, even the fucking slash ones but then it's mostly sending death threats about shipping the wrong characters together. If you're acting like it's possible for a fandom to be completely free of bad people, then lmao.

Re: OP

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Re: OP

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AYRT

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-10 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I like MLP. That is all I have to contribute to the converation.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-10 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
...Really. The fandom where drawing a plus-sized character too skinny got Zamii sent death threats. Yeah...hm.

I'm just gonna sit over here in my nice chill robot fandom where we're all bitching that we wanna see our favorite villain back NOW.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-10 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Chill robot fandom? Name names please! I could absolutely use a chill robot fandom in my life.

OP

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
If you’re talking about Transformers: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER

dA

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Look OP, no fandom is going to be perfect. If annoying "ruined 4eva" fans are enough for you to blow off a whole fandom as "not chill enough" then you might as well avoid every fandom ever.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
so far the only wank currently is that one guy in the analyst subfandom turned out to be a creep and the rest of the community is handling it..questionably.


Does that really my that the whole wide fandom is awful and not just the creep and those people who mishandled it?


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[personal profile] anarchicq 2018-07-11 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Ooo details?

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
What I know for sure is..well fuzzy but based on what I heard someone who was really involved in the MLP YouTube analyst fandom was an actual pedophile who had tried to groom a minor and the other members of the fandom mishandled it, either by not taking complaints seriously enough or not reporting that they knew of it because they were reporting about it. or something

If I got something wrong feel free to correct me. Anyway I saw lots of people around condemning it and people in the community eventually came out and said that they were disgusted and saddened that someone they thought they knew did something so terrible.
anarchicq: (Pickles from Metalocalypse)

Re: AYRT

[personal profile] anarchicq 2018-07-11 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Got any links? I gotta get my fandom wank somehow.

Re: AYRT

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
That's pretty bad if you think the SU fandom is better than the MLP fandom. SU fandom is wild, and not in a good way.
cakemage: (Maxwell in his natural habitat.)

[personal profile] cakemage 2018-07-11 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
I love both SU and MLP, but like every other large fandom, they both have their toxic trashfire portions, particularly on Tumblr. Blocking and xkit/Tumblr Savior are a big help in avoiding the worst of them, but no system is perfect when it comes to wank prevention.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
My secfret of the week. I laughed so hard, thanks.