[ SECRET POST #4206 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4206 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I’ve shipped a couple of similar ships with a kind of similar dynamic and a lot of the same fans, and I still, well, I won’t say “don’t get” Reylo, because, again, I can see the similar framing and stuff. I just love my fucked up het heroine/villain ships, but somehow still loathe Reylo.

[(Anonymous)]

For me, it's that the kind of heroine that Rey is and the kind of villain that Kylo is just don't match up. Rey is entirely good and sympathetic and awesome, and I like her a lot but I want her to be with someone who's equally good and sympathetic and awesome. And Kylo - while he's an effective villain and a fascinating character - isn't someone that I find likable or sympathetic. He's not fucked up in a way that I find likable, or want to read about in relationships with.

I like both characters in a vacuum. I like the kind of ship that its shippers see it as, in a vacuum. But you put all the elements together and it just doesn't add up.

[anarchicq]

Rey is entirely good and sympathetic and awesome, and I like her a lot but I want her to be with someone who's equally good and sympathetic and awesome.


...Did you miss the part where Rey "went right to the dark" while meditating toward the sink hole? Or when she almost cleft Luke in twain with a saber and he had to use the force to levitate himself to keep from smashing on the rocks?

Or the part where Kylo couldn't bring himself to shoot the ship his mother was on?

ETA: I don't ship it. My SW ships are Baize/Cherrut and Finn/Poe(I guess...) and Kanan/Hera.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm only really talking about my personal reactions to the characters here, not so much trying to draw out a reading of the text or tell anyone else how to feel. I acknowledge that Rey has some darkness to her, and it would probably take several rewatchings of the movie and a lot of thought to work out exactly why that darkness doesn't apply in the same way that Kylo Ren's kind of darkness and dysfunction does, but that is the way that I feel about the character.

WRT Kylo, no, I didn't miss his refusal to kill his mother, but I don't think that only murdering one of his parents is enough to make me like him. And that's also not to say that he's irredeemable or anything like that - I think he probably will be redeemed, in fact. But I think it's going to be really hard for him to be redeemed, and in the meantime, he's just not a character that I find very sympathetic.

[(Anonymous)]

WRT Kylo, no, I didn't miss his refusal to kill his mother, but I don't think that only murdering one of his parents is enough to make me like him.

Yeah, this. Good job on not directly killing your mother, dude. Unfortunately, you're also leading a group of people who are plenty happy to do the job for you when you hesitate.

Way to set the bar really low.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Beyond this, when he does have the opportunity to speak from his heart, it's all victim-blaming bullshit.

(Now I want a fic where the galaxy is saved by Ron Swanson telling Ben to grow up and take up woodworking as a hobby.)