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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-07-10 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #4206 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4206 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
...huh. This was a comment of mine, almost verbatim, but I didn't make this secret. Oh well.

What I meant when I said it was that we live in such a heteronormative culture that the mere act of putting a man and a woman on screen together in a connected plot seems to end up with people talking about chemistry and sexual tension when there...isn't, or at least not objectively (see also: Mon-el and Kara in Supergirl. I never got "sexy chemistry" out of that either). Ship what you wanna ship, for sure, but most shippers at least have the sense to admit it's what they WANT, not what's necessarily there. The point is that most of the time with straight ships in media, the writers can just put them on screen together and skip the actual relationship but it will still be seen as canon and steamy romance.

Versus with gay/lesbian ships in media, there are relatively so few and it's still such a big huge deal to have anything at all that the material has to explicitly state a romance or the audience will assume there is none. Shippers, obviously, will still do as they like, but as a bisexual person, it's a very different watching a straight relationship play out with solely visual cues and silent emotions and a gay relationship having to be done in blatantly spoken terms.

My comment was never meant to be a bash on straight people, just to say that...I don't get it, man.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 08:53 am (UTC)(link)
that makes so much more sense with context, yeah, i understand what you mean and i agree. "he was a boy, she was a girl, can i make it any more obvious?"

i recently encountered that in the game "vampyr", where halfway through what was a perfectly normal and polite friendship the main male and female character start making declarations of love and there was absolutely no tension or chemistry leading up to it. but because she was a pretty kind redhead that was nice to the mc it was assumed that the romance would work.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Intention isn't magical, because it sure comes across as a bash on straight people.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm straight and there was nothing offensive about it.
Maybe you just have a guilty conscious.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT. Nope. I don't even watch Star Wars.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT - can you maybe chill? No one in this entire thread is attacking anyone for being straight. It's just about confusion based on different experiences/realities.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Fandom will always ship and play up every little interaction regardless if it's M/F, M/M, or F/F.

However I always notice amongst the general population or big media they think every male and female who are not in an established relationship but share a lot of screentime will say they have sexual tension and assume they will get paired up.

That's where the most frustrating thing is. Fandom is just a free for all but amongst the bigger general audience they literally only see M/F regardless if it's written that way or not.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-11 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Yes! Exactly!