[ SECRET POST #4218 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4218 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Margot Robbie as Queen Elizabeth I and Saoirse Ronan as Mary Queen of Scots in Mary Queen of Scots (2018)]


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[Little Richard]


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[Jane Austen]


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[Joss Whedon, The Nevers]


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[God Eater 2]


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[Anthony Bourdain, Asia Argento]










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Comments

[sparklywalls]

I can forgive the accent thing because it wouldn't be the first time as I think people expect her to sound Scottish so productions like this are just going with that. I was actually reading something about this the other day that said we probably can't be certain if she sounded like we'd expect a French person to sound either.

I personally would be more bothered about meetings happening that didn't actually happen but even then I've come to accept historical fiction often has to spice up historical reality for the sake of drama. There are some things I find harder to forgive however, like 'The White Queen' having the Battle of Bosworth FIELD in a fucking wintery forest. In August.

So vent away. It's ok to be bothered by the things you're bothered by!

[(Anonymous)]

If it's the White Queen series based on Philippa Gregory's book, I'm not surprised. She's very much into taking a LOT of liberties with history. I don't mind most of it, but I didn't care for her version of Anne Boleyn at all and didn't think her version was more interesting than what actually happened.

[sparklywalls]

Yup the very same! I tried reading some of the books because my mum has them, we're both interested in Richard III. I just couldn't keep going. I'm all for trying to be a little kinder to people who have traditionally been cast as the villains of history but her Richard III stanning got a bit much even for me.

I'm not sure the forest choice for the TV show was her though. Probably some producer or director thought it'd look good or atmospheric on screen but it ended up being ridiculous.

[(Anonymous)]

I have an interest in Richard III too, but honestly, most of the historical novels that try to "correct" the bad perception of him usually goes too far the other way. I don't think he was an evil hunchback, but I don't think he was an innocent snowflake, either.

[sparklywalls]

Exactly the problem I have. He was a medieval king, of course he's not going to be an angel even if you do believe he didn't order his nephew's deaths (but honestly he *is* the most likely candidate anyway.)

NAYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, the pro-Richard arguments are really fascinating to me just because they're *so* flimsy and absurd

Re: NAYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Haha, indeed. I think they're based more on feelings and some odd belief in Richard being this... moral paragon of some sort? I don't see much historical basis for that, tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

This. At best - at BEST, mind you - I might be convinced that he didn't give the orders directly, but even that's a bit of a reach. People want to blame Buckingham but even that seems like a reach to me. Ricardians seem so weirdly desperate to find a scapegoat besides admitting that maybe Richard was, like many rulers of his time, not above doing the occasional really awful thing in order to secure the throne.

[philstar22]

Gregory is the worst. She picks a favorite historical person for a book and then twists everything so that person looks perfect and everyone around them is horrible. She's such an awful writer.

[sparklywalls]

This and the fact that the book focused on Elizabeth of York basically opens with a screed about how Elizabeth misses her hot sexy uncle (gross) is what turns me off ever reading anything by her ever again!

[(Anonymous)]

You should probably stay away from stories about European royalty all together. The family trees have a lot of loops.

[sparklywalls]

Oh I have a masters in Medieval History so I'm aware! The White Princess just did it in a really cringey way.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but hey! another medieval masters! *wave*