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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-07-24 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #4220 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4220 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
doesn't mean that we have to default to assuming that everyone was heterosexual and cis.

Since 96% and 99% of the population respectively identify as straight and cis that way then logically it's a pretty safe default.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Very bad, no good, terrible argument

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
oh dear

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
This strongly depends on the culture - if you have a culture that strongly punishes non-heterosexuality then yes, you're going to have more people publically identifying as heterosexual whatever their actual orientation. Whatever your culture sees as "normal" is going to have the largest category, e.g. samurai Japan seeing older male/younger male homosexuality as ideal, but marrying women and also having concubines necessary for the family line.

And if 99% of the population are cis (which is a dubious statistic dubiously applied) that gives you 1 in 100 historical figures being trans in some way which is a fuckton of people!

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
96% seems awfully high?

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Gallop did a poll in 2015 and 3.8% of people polled identified at LGBT.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Okay... and did they poll the whole planet? Including countries/places where people don't just say, "Yep I identify as LGBT."

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 08:52 am (UTC)(link)
no they polled americans lmao istg why are those people so self centered

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yet Gallup's poll in 2016 indicated that 4.1% of people identified as LGBT. And a 2017 poll indicated that 20% of millennials identified as LGBT.

The trend is pretty clear. Identifying as LGBT isn't the same as having same-sex experiences (which is telling on both sides) but as LGBT acceptance increases, so do non-straight identities.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if that kind of thing works. I'm LGBT but if asked by some random poll what my sexual orientation is, I'd opt to not say.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
And I bet a lot of other LGBT people would opt to not say, way more than people who identify as straight and have no trouble saying so.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
That is not even close to being strong enough evidence to conclude what you want to conclude here

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-07-25 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Usually what that really means in practice is, "we're just going to ignore the inconvenient evidence of same-sex relationships for these people." It's all inconclusive anyway.

(Anonymous) 2018-07-25 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
96-99% of Ancient Greeks wouldn't identify as straight and cis.