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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-08-12 04:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #585 ]


⌈ Secret Post #585 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 12 pages, 280 secrets from Secret Submission Post #084.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - take it to comments ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
WAKE US UP WHEN YOU KNOW THE DETAILS. OH WAIT, IF YOU KNEW THE DETAILS, YOU WOULDN'T BE SAYING A DAMN WORD.

C&D PLEASE.

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That response is getting old! Those involved have two choices, either pony up and tell all these 'details' that will apparently change everyone's minds and prove what a wanker he's supposed to be, or just stop speaking. I'm sure the response will be that it's all confidential and that's why its all super sekrit, but that sounds like a convenient excuse.

Just continually capslocking that 'we don't know everything' is weak. This whole thing could have died by now, but it gets kept alive by people still trying to 'prove' that the site was hard done by. It was a joke that some found funny and some didn't. Just as you were allowed to like it and find it hilarious, he's allowed not to find it funny and he's allowed to be pissed off.

What really makes me laugh is how people are acting like this has never happened before ever! For crying out loud, he's not the first public person to issue a C&D or legal proceedings. GET OVER IT

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

[identity profile] wendy.livejournal.com 2008-08-12 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
*claps for you*

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Those involved have two choices, either pony up and tell all these 'details' that will apparently change everyone's minds and prove what a wanker he's supposed to be, or just stop speaking.

THANK YOU. I'd love to hear the details of this,but all we get is, "you weren't there so you don't know!" Ok, TELL US. If you're not wiling to do that, then you have no right to bitch about people not knowing "the details".

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Don't you think it's even the slightest bit strange that no-one involved has said a word? Not even a little bit? NOTHING IS ALLOWED TO BE SAID for legitimate legal reasons. The truth is that you don't know half of what's going on, and you're not going to unless the rules change.

And it isn't the people involved who keep dragging it up; most of us are over it. It's the blinkered fangirls who swear that their precious Jensen can do no wrong who are dredging it up over and over again, when they don't know any details, and when it's none of their business.

The people involved do not have a choice in telling entitled fans as to what is going on. You may just have to accept that, maybe, just possibly, Jensen Ackles pulled a bit of a childish, over-the-top, douchey move. GET OVER IT.

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think anyone is saying Jensen can do no wrong. They are saying they don't think he did wrong here. There's a difference. And fangirls aren't dredging it up over and over, it's been like two freaking weeks. Give it time.

And maybe it is none of our business, but they shouldn't have told us about it in the first place then.

And if the people involved are really legally obligated to keep their mouths shut about it, then obviously there's a lot more to the story than we got, and Jensen's C&D and whatever other legal actions he took were probably justified.

You'll have to excuse us for not believing the people who spent their free time bashing someone when they tell us 'He's a douche, for serial you guys! We just aren't allowed to tell you why cause he's so douchy!'

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
You'll have to excuse us for not believing the people who spent their free time bashing someone when they tell us 'He's a douche

Ahaha, seriously. Sounds like they're still just getting their rocks off by bashing the man.

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
And maybe it is none of our business

DINGDINGDING!

A website and an LJ comm were forced out of existence. There's no way to hide that.

not the op but

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
'He's a douche, for serial you guys! We just aren't allowed to tell you why cause he's so douchy!'

It makes me lol because that's EXACTLY why we can't say anything.

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Don't you think it's even the slightest bit strange that no-one involved has said a word? Not even a little bit? NOTHING IS ALLOWED TO BE SAID for legitimate legal reasons.

UM, REALLY? Because I'm PRETTY SURE neither of the people supposedly being sued for it could shut up about it in the beginning. Conveniently, however, the posts are deleted now!

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. Very good point.

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Hee... if you're curious... the screencaps of the original whiny and entitled posts are still available on sendspace...
http://www.sendspace.com/file/b31378
warning: the caps are huuuuuge because they have all the comments on them too.

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, right. Anyone who doesn't agree with you is a blind Jensen fangirl. I forgot that you people try to shut down dissent that way.

You know, you're not the center of the universe, and you're not always right. (I can say this without knowing you, because it's true of absolutely everyone.) If you tried for just a moment to think how you'd react to an orchestrated campaign to publicize a site publicly devoted to maligning you (with tiny disclaimers attached), you might not be so shocked and horrified by his response.

But then, he's not a real person, is he? He's just a plaything for you, and he had the unmitigated GALL to take offense to something just about anybody would take offense to.

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
IAWTC.

Seriously. All I can see coming from them is "GUISE IT TURNS OUT OUR ACTIONS HAD CONSEQUENCES, FEEL SORRY FOR US :((((" and then acting shocked and butthurt because not everyone did.

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
have you seen anything lately? cause I haven't. all i see are fen submitting secrets.

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Put up or shut up. Srsly.

Re: 112 JEMSEM IS A MASSIVE WANKER

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
seconded.

OP

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, pretty sure I would, yeah. I love it when people assume everyone is going to agree with their ideas of what's acceptable and justified. Oh internets - never change.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Honey, this has nothing to do with "what's acceptable and justified". Nothing. At. All.

I love it when people come into a situation like this thinking they know best.

OP

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Tomato/potato.

I love it when people come into any situation thinking they know best.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
No, but you don't know what's going on, not at all, so you've got no place to say that if you knew the facts then you'd be shouting your mouth off about it.

Because you really, really wouldn't.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
if you guys just want the issue to be let go, why are you going around leaving ominous comments about the terrible things jensen has done (that you conveniently can't tell anyone about)? it was clear by the end of the whole thing that all the hysteria was over the fact that the girls OMG BEING SUED!! just didn't understand the C&D letter.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, leaving comments in response to the secrets that are still being made by people who have half the story. The legal requirements are not convenient, especially when we can't defend ourselves or explain what he's done for fear of having more action taken against us.

Until you actually see the material that was sent to the people behind PETJA with your own eyes, don't go around blindly stating that they did or didn't not understand what was issued to them.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Until you show us what was sent to you, don't go around telling us not to share our feelings about it.

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(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Ha! You guys are making it sound like he sent a couple of no-necks out to this chick's house and threatened to kill her and her puppy if she didn't stop being so mean to him. I can't seriously imagine any legal action he could have actually taken that would be so OMG scary as you're making it seem. He could send a C&D. He could sue for defamation or something along those lines. It's not like he could have you sent to Death Row for saying mean thing on the internet.

Uh... unless there are some seriously scary new cyber-bullying laws in effect that I'm unaware of?