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fandomsecrets2008-08-12 04:52 pm
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[ SECRET POST #585 ]
⌈ Secret Post #585 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 12 pages, 280 secrets from Secret Submission Post #084.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - take it to comments ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Re: 148
Gordon wants to believe the system works. Batman just wants balm on his well-nursed wounds. I think he says it's for justice, and that he's said it often enough that he believes it, but really, he's fooling himself.
Pragmatically, it's a good thing he is and all, given the good he's done for Gotham. But purely clinically? He's nuts.
Killing the Joker wouldn't be giving up on justice either, I don't think. Batman's scared of what he'd become if he let himself do it, and I'll admit with good reason, but I still think it's either weak or self-indulgent that he won't do it, especially since he knows (and has told the Joker as much) that it will have to end with one of their death's. He knows the Joker can't be helped or contained, so in a way, he's either putting off the inevitable, or hoping that someone else will wind up doing it for him.
He can't believe that the system works and do what he does, pure and simple. He'd like to think that, I suppose, but he takes himself out of the system, meaning that the only rules that apply to him are the ones he sets himself. His "strict moral code" is just something he has to make himself feel better about that and everything. I suppose you could be a little melodramatic and say that's what seperates him from them (although cops, even non-corrupt ones, will shoot to kill if dealing with a psycho like the Joker. So what's the deal, Batsy?), but I keep thinking of something Wolverine told Chamber when the latter was told to infiltrate Weapon X. I can't remember what he said exactly, but it was something along the lines of "This is something that needs doing and it isn't pretty or glamourous, but if you've got a chance to save hundreds of lives and the cost is a piece of your soul, you pay it."
It's not something I agree with 100% IRL, but in comic/story-logic, I do.
(And yes, I agree, comic-wise, Batman can't kill someone, and I'm not sure that I'd want him to. But playing pure devil's advocate...I still think he's nuts and a little spoiled.)
Re: 148
(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:26 am (UTC)(link)He can't believe that the system works and do what he does, pure and simple.
I agree with this in part because I can see how hard it would be to reconcile the two, but I think Batman believes in justice more as an abstract concept, while at the same time he makes up his own justice to fill in the gaps.
I still think he's nuts and a little spoiled
Ahahaha, spoiled definitely. Most orphans don't have a billion-dollar company and a gigantic trust fund at their disposal.