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⌈ Secret Post #585 ⌋

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I've tried really hard to NOT be on either side of this wank because I have friends on both sides and because I'm guilty of mocking him myself on occasion, but I don't suppose my two-cents hurt on F_S...

At first I did just take it as a kind of moment of humourlessness on Jensen's part (or his people's part) but then I started to think about how I'd feel if websites like that existed about me and I became aware of them - even with my sense of humour I'm sure I wouldn't appreciate it. Also the more I hear about the things that were supposedly on that site, the more I kind of don't blame him...if indeed the things I've heard did ever go on there, which most of us will probably never know.

BUT THEN I had a conversation with a guy I know who's a small-time actor about how he's been bashed in the past, and all he said was "I'm an actor, I'm fair game."

I don't really know. Right now I'm just trying not to step on any toes because Jensen seems like a stupid reason to fall out with people, no matter what your opinion of the situation is.

Edited 2008-08-13 01:43 (UTC)

honestly, it just makes me wonder about him when FAR more batshit crazy things are said on a daily basis on perez and the like about actors all the time.

They were making flyers. To hand out at comic con. "Promoting" him. I cannot understand why anybody is so shocked at the C&D.

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...I am so glad I managed to miss those. I would have been insulted on his behalf.

Yeah, but mostly this whole thing has been like "Oh, TRUST ME, I can't tell you how we know he's involved but he definately is."

And to be honest I'm like "Trust you? WHY?" The legal-eagles of fandom seem to think the gag-order stuff is nonsense so a lot of people feel they're just being messed around, which is fuelling all of this I think.

*shrug* Like I said, I've talked it out with a friend who's been bashed before and he just shrugged it off (and he was being accused of being a homophobe, which would be HARD for me to shrug off, to be honest) but people are different. I don't respect him anymore or less than I did before.

BUT THEN I had a conversation with a guy I know who's a small-time actor about how he's been bashed in the past, and all he said was "I'm an actor, I'm fair game."

You know, that's pretty much been my default on any celebrity whining about people being mean to them or whatever in the past, but in this particular situation, it just feels different.

This isn't people on ONTD or The Superficial making fun of some actress for sleeping with a married guy, or an actor for crashing his Lexus because he was drunk. This was a website created solely for the purpose of making fun of one person over and over, twisting thing's he'd said ten years ago to make him sound retarded, to the point where they were planning a public 'campaign' of fliers and such. And yes, I know they claimed the campaign was only to sing his praises, but did he know that? Why would he think they were suddenly going to try and help his career when they'd been trashing him for months in a public arena?

Nobody seems to be considering the possibility that Jensen/Jensen's management realized it was satire but still didn't want it out there, particularly when the site was talking about campaigning and promoting him and the like. What on earth made them think that would be a good idea?

I know what you mean. I'd personally HATE to discover something like that about me, even if it was made in humour. Someone involved was asked how they'd feel and they said "I'd think it was hilarious!" but I do think that's bullshit. Personal attacks are never fun.

And yes, I know they claimed the campaign was only to sing his praises, but did he know that? Why would he think they were suddenly going to try and help his career when they'd been trashing him for months in a public arena? - You make a very good point.

I'm so PENSIVE about all of this because the people who I know who were involved with the site really aren't bad people, but at the same time it doesn't make him a bad person to have tried to stop this, IF he did (which I still have my doubts about).

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