case: ([ Flonne; Ummm... ])
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-08-13 05:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #586 ]


⌈ Secret Post #586 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 08 pages, 190 secrets from Secret Submission Post #084.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ], [ 1 2 3 - take it to comments ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 106

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
With animation, a studio can make the unreal possible. The actor that plays Spike will never be as tall, move as quickly and fluidly, have the same inflection, or the same subtleties. The point is, Spike and the Bebop crew were meant to be animated, which is why CB wasn't originally live-action.

And have you seen Goku from the Dragonball movie? Tell me the actor doesn't look ridiculous. Anime doesn't translate well into live-action... just think of how unrealistic the characters look--the impossibly styled hair, the large eyes with a tiny nose, etc. Anime is too stylized to translate well, if you ask anyone who's been a fan of anime before its counterpart movie was released.

The point isn't that they can pick the proper music (which for CB will be easy, seeing as the whole series revolves around the blues/jazz vibe), and it's not about finding the right actor (because you're missing the point--I don't care if someone has the acting chops to pull off a character, the point is that it's impossible to be totally faithful to that character).

Anyways, as far as actors go, it's been said that Keanu Reeves will be Spike. NOW tell me that it's not going to get fucked up.
pikabot: (hiyori)

Re: 106

[personal profile] pikabot 2008-08-14 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
The Keanu Reeves rumor is baseless, and comes entirely from the fact that the producer likes casting Keanu in his projects.

YOu're right, the Dragonball movie looks horrible. One of the many reasons for this is because Dragonball is a property that translates horribly to live-action. People move and bend in impossible ways and do things like shoot energy out of their hands that is going to look silly in live-action no matter what you do.

Cowboy Bebop is a lot more grounded. There isn't any of that wacky, bizarre shit going on. It is in fact a property that would translate quite well to a live-action presentation.

You're right in that it wouldn't be exactly the same as the original. And I've never said it would be, and that's because that is impossible. That's why they call it an adaptation, not a one-to-one conversion. Do you think The Dark Knight was exactly like the comics? It wasn't. And yet look at all the reams of secrets blowing their load over it.

[EDIT] I notice I'm getting an abnormal number of anonymous replies to this comment. Am I talking at the same person over and over?
Edited 2008-08-14 00:46 (UTC)

Re: 106

(Anonymous) 2008-08-14 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
No, that one you replied to was my first comment to you.

The Dark Knight being popular (regardless of the fact that it's very unfaithful to the cartoon/comic) is exactly my point in making the secret. The CB movie may be "popular", ie successful, like TDK... but to Batman purists (of which I am one) there are many flaws in TDK and I would say that I'm upset at the storyline in general, as well as some casting choices.

While not every adaptation is absolutely terrible, none are perfect, and the average is mediocre at best. And the fandoms have been overrun with the squeeing-fangirl type, the trend-followers who demean their fandom simply by being in it, and ruining an otherwise perfect creation with their tendency to obsess over the flavor of the week.

To me, CB isn't a trend or flavor of the week, it's a very meaningful series that has changed my life, and I relate to the characters on a very personal level. Some of the greatness about the series is that not everyone knows of it... although it's very popular in the anime community (and somewhat beyond) I enjoy it in the same way one would relish a secret alcove on the beach or the view from a mountain that's not often climbed. Once the tourists discover your secret location, you feel sold-out, emptied, and commercialized.

On a whole, I just hate what Hollywood does to the original product, and I'm tired of the commercialization of every niche there is.
pikabot: (joker laugh)

Re: 106

[personal profile] pikabot 2008-08-14 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Whoo, purist elitism and indy elitism in one go. Good job.

Re: 106

(Anonymous) 2008-08-14 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
As opposed to enjoying any movie that's meant to appeal to the largest number of people, yeah. Maybe I don't usually agree with the majority of consumers out there, but I see no problem in the way I feel about anything meaningful to me. Don't get me wrong, I actually thought TDK was the best Batman movie so far, but as far as anime goes, I enjoy mine unmolested by the film-industry machine.

I think that good anime naturally appeals to a specific audience, and it should be left at that. What's the purpose of adapting it to live-action, other than making it appeal to a mass number of people and thusly generating more profit? I'm quite against Hollywood doing this, because it's essentially betraying the fans who sought it out in the first place, because they enjoy anime.