[ SECRET POST #4266 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4266 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Star Trek: The Next Generation, seasons 1 - 3]


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[lovestruck]


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[John Goodman, Roseanne Barr]


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[Preacher]


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06.
[Jane Austen, Mansfield Park]


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[The Great British Bake Off, series 6]











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Comments

[fscom]

04. https://i.imgur.com/i3FX7Kw.jpg
[John Goodman, Roseanne Barr]

[(Anonymous)]

I don't care if she's "a racist" or not. Debating whether or not she is "a good person" is equally pointless.

I don't care what she IS. I care what she DID. She did a racist thing. When it comes to condemning actions, I don't care whether people are otherwise a good person or not.

[(Anonymous)]

This is a very good point.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I hate this tendency to say "so-and-so is a good person, not a RACIST". You might otherwise be a good person and still do racist things. One doesn't cancel out the other. I mean, I love my dad, he's a great feminist, a kind and loving person, and has always supported me, but he's also a giant racist of the "take back Africa for white people" type. Yes, there's reasons for that - his family had to flee Zimbabwe - but it doesn't make him not a racist.

[(Anonymous)]

It's in the category of things that I consider stupid, but someone understandable for emotional, human reasons.

[feotakahari]

I just figure something snapped in her brain when she got older. It happens depressingly often, though not always in the same way. (My grandfather got really into psychic advisors, rather than racism.)

[liz_marcs]

To be fair (and keep in mind, I'm not defending her) she kind of had a fucked-up childhood. Her family was orthodox Jewish in Utah and hid it from the neighbors by pretending to be Mormon. She was hit by a car when she was 16 and suffered actual brain damage, which apparently affected her personality.

Frankly, Barr's been mentally unstable (if not outright mentally ill) her entire life. I remember during the ORIGINAL run of "Rosanne" she completely went off the rails and into outer space as the pressures got to her. She's been all over the place ever since, going from ultra-liberal to ultra-right-wing. It's like she gets these ideas in her head and it takes over.

I think a lot people who knew her *back in the day* tend to see her as that somewhat "crazy" person who, despite everything, had a big heart. She was apparently pretty loyal and protective of the cast, and she gave a lot of them a start in their careers. It's why she had all those otherwise, nice, liberal, non-racist people around her trying to defend her and trying to help her with the reboot. I don't think any of them really realized how far gone she was at this point.

That's not to say ANY of this excuses what Rosanne did. As someone pointed out above, she's being doing and saying racist shit for years. They should've never given her the reboot to begin with given her recent history. It was always going to end up biting them in the ass eventually. It just happened sooner rather than later.

But I can completely understand a situation where the people around her *know* she is was mentally ill and thought that maaaayyyybeeee if they could get her back into doing something she loved, rather than living isolated in Hawaii, they might be able to pull her out of her downward spiral. I think a lot of them have "she's mentally ill" in their heads (fairly or unfairly) and they're using that as the excuse for defending her because they're not quite ready to give up on her yet.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's uncommon for women of menopausal age to have a sudden onset or worsening of mental illness, which does explain how she went from an edgy loudmouth comedian to a full on conspiracy theorist racist asshole

[(Anonymous)]

This huge dollop of misogyny and lack of scientific rigour does not improve this thread.

[greghousesgf]

Racist crap is not OK no matter what. That being said, I think John Goodman is very talented but he has had sellout tendencies for some time.

[(Anonymous)]

she thought the bitch was white.