[ SECRET POST #4281 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4281 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

she's 100% in support of child sexual abuse

Source?

[(Anonymous)]

Her defense of Victor Salva. Which isn't at all surprising since she never came forward about Harvey Weinstein, she took the money and kept her mouth shut and even denied it after being exposed, then started attacking women who had no involvement for being complicit and not speaking up about what Weinstein is like. But yeah, Victor Salva is a really sweet guy and him sexually abusing children isn't any of her business.

[(Anonymous)]

Even if it was wrong of her to defend whoever she defended, that still doesn't justify saying that she's "100% in support of child sex abuse". Nor does it tell me who she hounded "literally to death".

[(Anonymous)]

Victor Salva sexually abuses children. That's not speculation, that's fact. Rose McGowan says it's his private life and none of her business.

And it's Jill Messick she hounded to death. Her former publicist who she blamed for her being raped by Harvey Weinstein.

[(Anonymous)]

I refuse to ruin my Sunday by digging into the specific details of the first case. But it seems highly unlikely that "100% supports sexual abuse" is a reasonable interpretation of the claim. Similarly, it seems highly charged and unreasonable to ascribe someone's suicide entirely to another party's criticism of them, and not to EG mental illness.

You really seem like, more than anything else, you just fucking hate Rose McGowan.

[(Anonymous)]

Have you really never heard of Jill Messick before? Because yes, she committed suicide because of Rose McGowan and her "army" hounding and harassing her. It was actually a huge fucking deal on account of the fact that a real person who was really innocent is now really dead because "Citizen Rose" felt like blaming them for something they had nothing to do with. Jill was subjected to unrelenting abuse and stalking all at Rose McGowan's urging to the point she killed herself to escape it.

[(Anonymous)]

I am not questioning whether she died by suicide, I am questioning the amount of certainty that you have in assigning the responsibility for that solely to Rose McGowan.

And I am also questioning your whole general derange stalker thing

[(Anonymous)]

Did the news not report on her death in your country or something? I'm just really confused here because it isn't my certainty, it's an actual fact that even Rose McGowan has addressed. But now I'm wondering if in America it didn't get reported even though they did a memorial for her at the Academy Awards.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you not reading my posts here

[(Anonymous)]

I guess I just don't understand them. I'm not saying it's a certainty she killed her self, I'm saying it's fact it's Rose McGowan's fault and even she has admitted that. Rose made the accusations, Rose told people to punish Jill, Rose told people that Jill's obscured LinkdIn account belonged to Jill, which also gave them her email, her physical address, and her phone number.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm questioning if you understand the degree of harassment that Rose ordered against Jill or if you don't understand how a sustained campaign of abuse and harassment can lead someone to kill themselves.

[philstar22]

Okay, I can't speak to Victor Salva or Jill Msssick. But fuck you for blaming her for not coming forward about Winstein and for taking money from him. Seriously? Do you not realize how difficult it is for women to come forward about powerful men even now, in the era of me too (see the whole Kavanaugh thing)?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think this person cares about anything other than hating Rose McGowan

[(Anonymous)]

My problem is how she is now making her living off her claims of coming forward when she never did. Never. Not once. She was EXPOSED. And then blamed several women in Hollywood of being complicit for being part of his cover up when it was she that was complicit in the cover up. It's the hypocrisy that annoys me about her. It's her lies and erratic behaviour that paint victims as unstable or unreliable that piss me off. But it's her defense of a pedophile and her part in hounding someone literally to death that make me hate her.

You can curse at me all you want but it won't change the facts. No matter how emotional you get or how verbally abusive or offensive you are, Rose McGowan will still be a dangerous woman who profits from the misery of others.

[philstar22]

At what point did I get emotional or abusive? WTF is this comment? Okay, you hate her. You are acting like she's the worst woman in the world and that no one could possibly disagree with you. Like it is your personal mission in life to make everyone hate her. Even if you were entirely right on everything, that is still a massive overreaction.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh is fuck you the standard greeting in America now? Sorry, my mistake. It's considered abusive in my country to say that someone so I chalked it up to you getting emotional.

Doesn't change the fact Rose McGowan is ok with a grown man sexually abusing children and filming and distributing it. Doesn't change the fact Rose McGowan hounded someone to death. Doesn't change the fact that Rose McGowan never came forward about being raped by Harvey Weinstein.

[philstar22]

That? Was about blaming a woman for not coming out and talking about being raped. Given the climate even a couple years ago, blaming a woman for that makes you an asshole. Calling her a hypocrite for then blaming others for doing the same thing, sure. I sideeye that myself. But blaming her for taking money and not going public? I stand by what I said. Blaming a rape victim for not coming forward is a really fucked up thing to do. Especially with someone powerful like Weinstein who could have and would have ruined her life if she had.

[(Anonymous)]

But I don't blame her for not coming forward. At no point did I say that. SHE said anyone who knows about abusive men and then covers up for them is to blame for all the victims that come after. She named a bunch of men and women as being responsible for her and other women being raped by Weinstein, including Meryl Streep. And never once saw the hypocrisy of it. And now claims she came forward to stop it happening to anyone else. But she didn't. She was exposed as being part of the cover up.

And believe it or not I totally understand why she took the money. I totally understand why she got into that hot tub. It was rape because she couldn't say no and she knew that and so she said yes.

But that in no way excuses her accusing innocent people. It doesn't excuse her lies about coming forward. And it doesn't excuse her portraying other Weinstein victims as being complicit nor rape victims in general as being unstable and unreliable.

[philstar22]

Okay, then. It sounded from your comments like you were blaming her. The rest of it is gross. She's done some terrible things. I'd argue for some sympathy because I think she clearly has PTSD and is mentally ill. But yes, blaming other women for doing the same thing she did is hypocritical (men I would blame for the most part because they all have a certain amount of power, and they should be using that power to help rape victims and to call out other men who are rapists).