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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-09-24 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #4282 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4282 ⌋

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[Colette]


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[Sara Sidle on CSI]


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[Criminal Minds]


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[Step by Step, Cody/Dana]


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Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2018-09-24 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Goddammit no.

Labels aren't bad, in and of themselves. Finding a way to talk about who you are is a good thing. The problem comes when they become a tool for gatekeeping or endless internecine warfare. And talking about "special snowflake syndrome" and "so-called genders" is helping fucking no one.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2018-09-24 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I really think a lot of people would agree with me. I am totally 100% proud of what I am and who I choose to love but have zero interest in giving it a 'special' name. Being human is special enough. It should be special enough for everyone. There are not seven billion genders, only seven billion individuals on this earth. No two people are the same and no two people feel the same inside. Different genders - no. Different people- yes.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2018-09-25 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Being human is special enough.

OK! It's fine that you feel this way.

It should be special enough for everyone

No, goddammit. What gives you the right?

Of course every human being is unique and specific. Of course. At the same time, there are patterns and trends across people, and there are concepts and categories that we build on top of that. Those things don't overwrite the person involved. The person is still there. But they're useful, they help people describe themselves, and they're meaningful, they help people come to an understanding of themselves that's true even if it's not universal. Those labels don't have to work for you to work for some people.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2018-09-25 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not disputing how you feel. You are entitled to feel how you feel. But, yes, it is not how I personally feel about the situation. What I am saying is that I think it can have a damaging effect and this entire secret and thread is about that damaging effect.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2018-09-25 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
First of all, if the labels are legitimate and true, doesn't that matter more than the reactions of the ignorant?

Second, which specific people are doing it? What's causing harm and with whom?

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2018-09-25 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
The world is turning on itself. Hate crimes are through the roof. I think it weakens the argument against ignorance for the reasons I mentioned above and ignorance seems to be breeding at an uncontrollable rate.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2018-09-25 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
This responded to neither of ayrt’s questions

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(Anonymous) 2018-09-25 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
And ceding ground to bigoted assholes will only make sure that the hate crimes go through the stratosphere. There has never in history been an improvement in the distribution of rights and liberties that has come of sitting down, shutting up, and hoping the bigots will magically see the light.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2018-09-25 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
By your logic, all gay people should go back in the closet, trans people should never transition. Because "but labels make them more violent" is a dangerous slope. In fact, it's just a goddamn cliff.

Re: +1

[personal profile] digitalghosts 2018-09-25 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
As with all things - one can say that only about themselves and if there is a seven gender limit to yourself then no one can tell you to consider more, same as you cannot make that decision for another person. We all are from different cultures, have different histories and linguistic experience and we do not even agree on humans being special unless you mean 'special' as in 'plague that Earth needs to get rid off'. Annnnd - you are totally free to think otherwise but let me not care about anyone's gender but my own and hate humanity.