[ SECRET POST #4294 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4294 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Sorry, thought I posted this already!

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 49 secrets from Secret Submission Post #615.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Why are people upset about it? I have no opinions on the casting myself.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen people complaining he's not good-looking enough to play Richie (even though book!Richie is not even supposed to be pretty anyway).

[(Anonymous)]

Weird. I didn't think Richie was supposed to be particularly good looking.

[(Anonymous)]

He's not, from what I've seen I think people who are upset about this casting are those who think Finn Wolfhard is too hot for his adult version to be played by someone as 'plain' as Bill Hader. Richie is funny and sorta charming in his own way, but he's never been described as hot.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, super disturbing that people are describing a minor as "hot". He's not as homely as Richie is described in the novel, but then most TV/movie casting doesn't accurately reflect characters' looks when they're not conventionally attractive or arguably ugly.

[ninety6tears]

90% of the new fandom is about him and Eddie as their "gay babies" so of course they're not ecstatic that he's a more normal looking guy than they imagined.

(I ship Reddie even, and wanting hot isn't automatically bad, but jfc the tumblr fandom is mostly wanky migratory Stranger Things fans who are now going to take over The Goldfinch too because of Finn Wolfhard and it's hard to do anything now without running into delusional REDDIE IS CANON folks so meh, fuck em.)

And anyway, I find Bill Hader nice-looking.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, you're seriously over exagerrating. I only saw about one or two people on tumblr genuinely expressing disappointment over Bill Hader's casting because he's "not hot" enough (the rest of the other handful of complaints had more to do with the doubt that he can act in a serious role or just him simply not matching up with what they had in mind). Conversely, I saw about 50 million other posts complaining about people complaining that Bill Hader is not hot enough to play Richie. It was fabricated outrage, basically. The vast majority of Reddie shippers on tumblr are all totally for Hader and frequently make posts thirsting over or supporting him. It's the Wattpad and Instagram fandom (which skews way younger) that's full of obsessed Finn fangirls who ship him with his costars and think Richie should be played by Ezra Miller.

[ninety6tears]

I didn't mean to imply everyone was talking like that, just addressing the discussion of the very existent disappointment as brought up by someone else. I've seen what I've seen, you've seen what you've seen.

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing in my comment implied negativity towards you besides claiming over exaggeration, so your defensiveness and statement that I'm not part of the "saner" part of fandom is unwarranted.

And now I've seen you've edited your comment, so. Pretty duplicitous.

[ninety6tears]

So, you accused me of being dishonest and I'm not allowed to be annoyed? I altered the comment because I realized how the earliest part of my statement could have sounded more generalizing than intended. Excuse me indeed.

[(Anonymous)]

I could've worded that more nicely, but that really wasn't the intent of the comment anyway, it was more about clarifying a misconception. I was hoping you had changed your comment because it was just straight up mean and unnecessary, but oh well.

[ninety6tears]

I mean, you know that's why I did it, but you couldn't help pointing it out and inaccurately paraphrasing it to make me look bad, so I don't really give a shit at this point.

[(Anonymous)]

Charming person all around.

[(Anonymous)]

Anon, you’re a piece of shit. Shut up.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not dishonest, but I think it is oversimplifying the situation a little. I saw a fair amount have legitimate concerns about Bill Hader's casting, and in fact a lot blogs were annoyed that their concerns were being written off by the fandom as "oh, it's just fujos being shallow". Hopefully this doesn't sound like I'm coming after you because I really don't mean for that, and no doubt there are people out there who are put off by Richie not being as conventionally beautiful as they imagined in their heads, I just kinda wanna throw a different perspective in.

Anyway, since the initial announcement it seems like most have embraced Hader as Richie, so I'm a little confused why this is a secret. I see more complaints about Jessica Chastain's casting, if anything.

[(Anonymous)]

Ezra Miller. Jesus Christ.

[(Anonymous)]

Where did you see this? Any specific blogs? Because all the popular reddie blogs I follow are pro-Hader and don't mention anything about him being too ugly.

[ninety6tears]

I don't remember where, which I'm sure is the wrong answer. I am happy if my impressions, which I tend to get more from my piecemeal dashboard than going into the general tags, are wrong.

I don't mean that 90% of the fandom is anti-Hader, just that when there's a strong shipper base for a book fandom...some people are going to care more about Richie being hot than funny, and I have seen that at varying degrees of obvious.

[(Anonymous)]

Not to mention Richie is the most popular character and the fandom bike AND played by Finn Wolfhard (who has a disturbingly obsessive fandom that includes teens and adults alike *shudders*), so I imagine casting would've resulted in discourse no matter who they chose. Ah well, at least whatever wank there was has died down over the months.