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[ SECRET POST #593 ]

⌈ Secret Post #593 ⌋

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Quoted for semi-truth.

Enjoy being called an 'angsty teen' by butthurt christians.

Celsus, Porphyry, Omar Khayyám, Baruch Spinoza, Karl Marx, Anatole France, Wilhelm Reich, Friedrich Nietzsche, Mark Twain, Ayn Rand, Christopher Hitchens, Victor Stenger, they aaaaaaall were/are just rebellious teens AMIRITE.

LOLWUT. What do you imagine they all have in common with EACH OTHER, let alone with Pullman?

lmao

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that what they have in common is being vehemently against organized religion, Christianity mainly.

Are you people for REAL? They were very different writers with very different philosophies (all of them more talented than Pullman), and to boil them down to "being against organized religion" makes my head spin. You can't possibly really be that stupid. That's all you see in Mark Twain? He was a big fan of Christ and the New Testament, btw, and read the Bible often, despite not being a Christian. He was a brilliant social satririst.

Marxism and Objectivism are organized systems of thought with a lot of similarities to organized religion - the difference being that they deify Man instead of God.

I think you're a little bit confused...

Sorry; were my words too long for you? Tell me which ones you didn't understand and I'll explain.

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pentha.livejournal.com - 2008-08-21 04:33 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2008-08-21 04:36 (UTC) - Expand

Also, I didn't mean to be insulting. I get sarcastic when I am tired. My apologies. I can link you to info about Twain reading the Bible if you like, and there's a quote about him admiring Christ but thinking Christ would not be a Christian somewhere but I am too lazy to look it up atm. Also there's his play The Diaries of Adam & Eve, which is both funny and touching.

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(Anonymous) - 2008-08-21 17:56 (UTC) - Expand

AYN RAND a more talented writer than Philip Pullman?

BWHAHAHAHAHAAHH!

A better ranty polemicist, maybe. But "better writer" in the sense of being able to tell a story, make the language sing, create compelling characters?

Um, no.

Christopher Hitchens is no great shakes either, but at least he's an entertaining ranty drunk.

I may not agree with Rand, but at least she's not a bloodthirsty, axe-grindy hack like Pullman. At least his books are too boring to make me as angry as they would if they were decently-written.

LOL @ Pullman making the language sing. ahahhahahha

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vulgarweed.livejournal.com - 2008-08-21 04:46 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2008-08-21 18:01 (UTC) - Expand

I was not referring to Pullman at all.

I only posted examples of people who, yes, ruthlessly critisized the abrahamic religions and most notably Christianity- and yet were not angsty teens, like some Christians here automatically call every person who critisizes Christianity.

That is all.

If you're going to criticize religions, criticize them ALL. Otherwise you are being bigoted.

BTW Paganism and Buddhism are also religions.

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childings.livejournal.com - 2008-08-21 13:26 (UTC) - Expand

Ok, so I respect most of those people on that list with whose work I am familiar (even if I disagree with some of them).

But Ayn Rand?

Ayn Rand?

If nothing else her verbal-vomit writing style is unforgivable =/

Stop talking to yourself, 187 OP.

You people can't deal with the fact that more than just 1 or 2 people feel the same way about Christianity can you?

The self righteous comments alone make me agree more and more with the OP.

No, but when both of them are anon and speak in the exact same manner? it's not hard to spot someone boosting their own opinion.

You are wrong, though.

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(Anonymous) - 2008-08-21 04:39 (UTC) - Expand

Agreed. I've been a peaceful agnostic all my life, all peace signs and puppy farts. But the overdefensive, blantantly hypocritical, self-righteous plus ignorant-over-their-own-freaking-religion Christians online, tempt me to act like a militant atheist ass.

Hm, that's funny, self-righteous atheists who rail against religions ALL THE TIME make me feel like criticizing them, even though I know plenty of reasonable people who keep to themselves also happen to be atheists (like my mother and my sister). IT'S SO HARD TO FORGET THAT

There's a difference between being an atheist and being a PROSELYTIZING ATHEIST. Atheists are okay until they try to convince everyone that religion (usually they just mean Christianity) is TEH EVIL and shove it in everyone's face.

It's the same thing as blaming violence on movies and video games. PEOPLE CHOOSE TO DO WRONG OR RIGHT. No religion or story or video game can be held solely responsible for people's actions. Also, there are plenty of sane, reasonable people who believe in religion and keep to themselves without bothering anyone else, and they deserve to not have some asshole get in their face about how what they believe is a lie.

Everyone should be allowed to enjoy their own personal LIBERTIES without bothering anyone else.

Well, the problem comes in when religious people start to push for legislation (sometimes rather violently) that I believe is detrimental to the progress of humanity.

Banning stem-cell research because stem cells are 'alive'. Trying to teach children nonsensical mythology in the science classroom, where they should be taught deductive reason based on empirical evidence. When shit like that starts happening, I start to get a bit edgy.

In Ukraine, assholes PHYSICALLY ATTACK gay people as well as people with a 'dark skin'. What's more, they feel so free to do these things that they videotape their deeds and display them. And guess what they say they do these for? 'For the nation' and mostly 'for RELIGION' (Orthodox Christianity). Schools are very responsible for that zealous religious behavior from an early age.

When you're an atheist live so close to them, you get to be a little bit angry.

Crazy religious fundamentalists = the entire religion.
Unless you think it's okay to judge all of Islam based on the actions of several prevalent crazy religious terrorist groups.

Religious people are also working against the legislation you're speaking of. And religious people believe in evolution, and want science taught in school and religion taught in church.

Can you maybe not overgeneralize? Do you know how many scientists and doctors are religious? You're insulting all of them when you make sweeping statements like this, and I'm sure you don't mean to.

THIS. SO MUCH.

lol. you are insulting all those writers, even ayn rand, by comparing them with the OP here.

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