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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-10-23 05:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #4311 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4311 ⌋

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Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

(Anonymous) 2018-10-24 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
IA. Standards are different for fanfiction...arguably lower in some ways. Fanfiction writers don't need to develop their world building character writing skills because fanfiction doesn't demand that of them.

People tend to conflate "story I really liked" with good quality writing.

Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

(Anonymous) 2018-10-24 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
People tend to conflate "story I really liked" with good quality writing.

I mean

I can think of worse metrics for good quality writing

Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

(Anonymous) 2018-10-24 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but... I think that's ayrt's point. It's more apples and oranges than a lot of people seem willing to admit. The factors that figure into why people like or enjoy things have some overlap with quality, perhaps, but it's a lot more complicated than that. It's like when there's a thread about awful movies you love - that right there is recognition that quality =/= enjoyment.

Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

(Anonymous) 2018-10-24 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
But something being consistently enjoyable to actual readers isn't, like, diddly squat. And in fact, I think it's as reasonable a definition of "quality" as any other meaning you want to offer.

Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

(Anonymous) 2018-10-24 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
I mean.. I really liked "Straight Skaterboy Twink Gets Fucked By Horny Big-Dick Plumber", but I wouldn't argue its larger merits as a film.
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Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-10-24 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Lots of fanfic has amazing world-building, though.....

Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

(Anonymous) 2018-10-24 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
And is that world building part of the canon, or is it the author's original world building?
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Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-10-24 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
If it's an AU? It's the authors world building. If you put Sam and Dean in gladiatorial Rome, and actually research it, and etc., well - how is that different from profic? The bare bones might be the same - two brothers, a demon ruined their family, they have a destiny - but tons of profic has that same structure, built around Greek or Roman myths, or African myths, or Native American. Or building on Sherlock Holmes, or Les Mis, or Pride and Prejudice, or Gone with the Wind.

No one disputes that stuff like that is 'good' and 'professional', but it's all just fanfiction. And *just* like fanfic, some is awesome, and some is gods-awful.

Re: Fandom secrets you can't be bothered to make

(Anonymous) 2018-10-24 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
People tend to conflate "story I really liked" with good quality writing.

And what we're taught is "good quality writing" is largely the Classics AKA White Male Literature glorifying white men in some way, except things by the occasional woman and the occasional story that's actually enjoyable or a critique of white men.

I'd rather a story I enjoy, please, than something that's meant to be a work of art.