[ SECRET POST #4315 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4315 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know. If I order a cheese pizza and half of it has sausage on it, is it still a cheese pizza? That's how I look at it. Parts of fandom are more mainstream now. But I wouldn't call fandom mainstream as a whole.

[(Anonymous)]

If I order a cheese pizza and half of it has sausage on it, is it still a cheese pizza?

No, but it's not not a cheese pizza, either, is it

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe we should ask a vegetarian whether or not they'd consider a pizza with half sausage a cheese pizza?

[(Anonymous)]

What do vegetarians know about it more than I do

[(Anonymous)]

For starters, they know that if they order a cheese pizza, it'd better not have any other toppings on it besides cheese, otherwise it's not a cheese pizza. :)

[(Anonymous)]

OK. I order a half-sausage half-cheese pizza, and then I give you a slice from the cheese half. Haven't I give you a slice of cheese pizza?

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT I'll trade my popcorn for a slice of that pizza.

[(Anonymous)]

Arguably. But you're really going to look at the whole pizza that's 50% sausage and say, "This is a cheese pizza"?

[(Anonymous)]

But can you justify why this specific analogy applies to fandom rather than something with a more blatant gradient, like "is this a collection of sand grains or a pile of sand"? It seems like you're trying to justify saying that the definition of "mainstream" isn't a gradient by explicitly analogizing it with something that isn't a gradient, without justifying why that analogy is valid in the first place. You're assuming your conclusion by the choice of analogy you made.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT: So a better pizza analogy is that fanficcers are the ham-and-pineapple people. It's been around for decades but most pizza lovers are kind of "nope not my thing," and now they're complaining that pizza isn't mainstream unless ham-and-pineapple is mainstream, in spite of Disney and Warner making billions selling deeply nerdy franchises and nostalgia to general audiences.

[(Anonymous)]

Speaking as someone who has dietary restrictions (not related to sausage, but for the sake of the analogy, we'll pretend), no. You've handed me a piece of sausage and cheese pizza that happens to have no sausage physically on it...probably, unless there's sausage lurking under the cheese, which is often the case with pizza toppings. If you told me what it was before handing it to me, I'd decline it, and if you tried to pass it off as something I could eat without getting sick and I found out - quite possibly by getting sick - I'd be seriously pissed.