[ SECRET POST #4315 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4315 ⌋

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AYRT—hmm. Your reference to American President didn’t mislead me, so much as I don’t necessarily see the next film involving a lot of self-reflection or attempts at self-improvement on Kylo’s part. The narrative could go there in the last film, but unless he dies like Vader in the midst of saving Leia—and possibly Rey but mostly Leia—I don’t see the point in redeeming him to pair him up with Rey. There’d need to be a whole ‘nother trilogy of build up for me to not cringe at Reylo.

Kylo just doesn’t seem to have much depth to him. He has, so far as we see onscreen, no sense of humor or hobbies. His only moment of human feeling that doesn’t involve being pissed at Rey is brief reluctance to kill his mother. If he had a similar backstory to Anakin Skywalker I could possibly see redemption via love if Rey were the equivalent of Padme being found alive somewhere.

Kylo Ren had a pair of loving, if possibly awkward and estranged, parents. He was not a child when he killed his fellow jedi-in-training (did they ever call them padawans in the new films?) I’ve heard the novelization expands on his mind-bond with Snoke starting when he was a child, but that’s not made clear in the films. He doesn’t fix droids in his spare time, or practice interstellar languages, or play electric guitar. He broods about exceeding his grandfather’s genocidal legacy.

If Vader had stopped exhorting Luke to rule the galaxy with him and instead offered to go to a space arcade and play Intergalactic Invaders for a day, I would’ve been okay with an ending where Vader didn’t die. But that offer of co-dominion to Luke is the best Vader can do. Kylo should’ve been able to do better if the narrative is gonna end differently this time.

I hope that any possible redemption for Kylo Ren has nothing to do with Rey except possibly as reflects her part in the Resistance, and would prefer (sorry!) that he die rather than get together with her. It’s not that I ship opposing ships—I don’t—but none of the other possibilities except crack like Reyux creep me out so much.

I actually ship a few “her/his love redeems him/her” couples, although I prefer to write and read fanfic where the villain does just as much work as the hero(ine), as in your wishes for Reylo. The difference is those villains are shown onscreen (or page) to have more going on and more to offer the hero(ine) than the realization that mass-murder’s not enough to build a relationship. They have goals in common or differ on method, or family/friends in common and reconcile for their sake, or hobbies/interests in common.

I dunno, I find Kylo Ren really attractive but can’t get over what he’s done when it took him 2 movies into a trilogy to realize destroying entire planets is a stupid way to get girls.