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⌈ Secret Post #594 ⌋

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If you're a woman, you automatically know more about sexism in comics than a man. Even a man who's actually read comics. Trufax.

Unless you don't see the sexism, in which case your privilege is showing.

If you're a woman, you automatically know more about sexism in comics than a man. Even a man who's actually read comics.

...Well that's not sexist.

No, see, only *women* have the proper context to really appreciate sexism. A man can go his entire life and never be made inconvenienced or uncomfortable about his gender. And they can't reliably imagine themselves in an unprivileged position, because they lack the necessary empathy.

If I were a man I'd feel pretty darn 'inconvenienced' by people telling me I can't possibly have the empathy to sympathize with unpriviliged people though.

I agree with this comment. You just summed up quite a bit of what I was going to say.

I don't think they're saying a man lacks the necessary empathy to be sympathetic, just that you can't imagine yourself into the same experience. Like with any discussion about privileged groups. The dominant group can imagine what it's like and sympathize and even recognize instances of sexism/racism/homophobia etc. But experiencing life as a minority is different.

At least that's what I assume the person is saying.

I don't agree with that. Men are perfectly capable of recognizing sexism when they see it, and of being offended by it. A while a man can indeed go his entire life and never be made inconvenienced or uncomfortable about his gender, so can a woman. And both genders can also go through life encountering many inconveniences related to gender along the way. Granted, historically women have faced more persecution than men, and they are still more likely to have gender-related problems today, but that doesn't mean that therefore they are the almighty oppressed and the only ones that can possible know what it's like to be discriminated against because of your gender.

I personally don't feel at all underprivileged because I'm female. I never have. I don't know if that's because I don't act particularly feminine or what, but that's the way it is. Yeah, there are assholes. I ignore them. No matter who you are, there will always be some aspect of you that is looked down upon by certain groups (sexists, racists, homophobes, etc.). It isn't gender-specific.

I disagree. I mean, of course I'm not disagreeing that your experience is what you say it is, but the inequality between the sexes isn't just a case of women historically facing more persecution than men but really they're equal and men sometimes get uncomfortable too. Sexism isn't always something you can just ignore. You may never feel like this is something you have to deal with, but many women are aware of dealing with it.

Regardless, as a woman you obviously have more credibility talking about the experience of being a woman than somebody who has never had that experience.

Edited 2008-08-22 03:10 (UTC)

Uh... Is it just me, or is this very, very obvious sarcasm?

That's what I'm trying to figure out.

I think it is, and I don't want to deal with someone like that on the offchance that it isn't. Win/win.

...Well. If it is, I'll certainly be embarrassed. At least I got the chance to articulate an opinion, at any rate.

Unsolicited opinions are the best kind.

Maybe.

Well, I thought it was, FWIW.

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