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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-01 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #4320 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4320 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Gerard Way (formerly of My Chemical Romance) - "Baby You're a Haunted House"]



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[The Good Place]


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[The Haunting of Hill House]






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(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
So he couldn't have kept up his double-agent status without abusing children under his care? Barty Crouch Jr WASN'T a double-agent and still managed to be a half-decent teacher while disguised as Moody (ferret incident notwithstanding but at least there was a "reason" for that, as opposed to Snape's baseless torment of Neville, Harry, and countless others).

(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this is a bad argument.

He used Unforgivable curses on students. He performed others in front of them. He tortured spiders in front of Neville using the same curse he used to drive his parents insane. He put 14 years olds under an Imperious curse and made them do painful and humiliating things.

He absolutely enjoyed it, it was just under the guise of preparing them for the real world.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-02 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
At least you can make an argument that there's a legitimate, important educational purpose to those things, in the universe of the book. Those things are real dangers. And not only that, but the books largely go along with the idea that those things are important and that it was good that he did them.

I still wouldn't go so far as to say that he was a great teacher, and obviously he wasn't like... a good person, but there's a world of difference between that stuff, and just straight up bullying students.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-05 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The books largely go along with the idea that it's appropriate to keep slaves, that the 'epitome of goodness' is a guy who flirted with genocide, and that Harry's use of torture is a chivalrous gesture. It's almost like people can disagree with books, and their authors. It's not like a quiz where the closer your moral views align with Rowling's, the more 'right' you are about the series.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-05 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, this argument. 'Moody/Crouch bullied students to keep up appearances and punished children for their parent's mistakes' (remember there's nothing he hates more than a Death Eater who 'got away with it', no coincidence he goes over Lucius Malfoy's son; while also winning Harry's trust by doing so.) 'but at least he bullied the right children!'