fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #595 ]

⌈ Secret Post #595 ⌋

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You're not in the fandom. Trust me, a lot of the Maya hate is pretty much flat-out sexism. (A recent comment in a post by a friend referred to Maya going to the "Niki school of whoredom." Think about that. Niki was faithful to her husband-- who was in prison for years. She just happened to be an internet stripper-- to make money to send her kid to school. Yeah.)

Okay. But that doesn't make the OP's complaint invalid, does it?

It doesn't, but calling what people do when they say "hey, you're beginning to sound racist/sexist when you bitch about her" 'Oppression Olympics' devalues the discussion of said problems in fandom. Especially when you're not in the fandom to see what exactly the OP is discussing.

People who refer to Maya as a whore, slut, or anything else of the sort need to be beaten unconscious with a dictionary. She kissed Sylar and now she's going to be in a relationship with Mohinder -- so that makes her a whore how exactly? Hell, Mohinder is more of a whore than she is, since she'll be his third love interest (Mira, Eden). And don't even get me started on Peter and Nathan's womanizing tendencies. Why doesn't fandom attack them en masse?

:( It bothers me with all the female characters. There's a much higher "purity" standard. It's okay if Nathan womanizes, it's okay for Peter to sleep with another man's girlfriend, but Niki is a whore for stripping to pay her bills, or for sleeping with Nathan while under the control of her alternate personality. Maya's a sex-kitten for falling for a guy who's had trauma similar to hers, and saved her life.

But not all of it is sexism. But as soon as any complaint against her is leveled, then it's automatic yellow card for misogyny in any public space--especially in this comm. I've been told I'm fucking racist against myself because I don't love her to bits and pieces and don't want to just give her another chance since the writers really mean well and don't do any awful racial stuff at all.

it's automatic yellow card for misogyny in any public space--especially in this comm.

I find that utterly mystifying. Yes, there are a number of Maya supporters in this comm, but the rest of the internet? I see foaming-at-the-mouth Maya hatred practically everywhere, and outside of this comm I've never once seen any of the haters accused of misogyny or racism or anything of the sort. Seriously, please tell me what part of fandom you're inhabiting, because I'd rather be in there than in the part where people bash her ceaselessly and no one bats an eyelash.

It's a problem, yes, but I don't think it's oppression olympics, or solidarity in sisterhood. It's people seeing a very real pattern and possibly overgeneralizing (you may want to reread what you say about her, though. Sexism and racism are tied together, so when you say "these racist characteristics bother me", sexist assumptions can sneak in without you realizing that's what other people might take from it. Not that you are sexist, but that sexism can color the issue, either on your end or the other person's.)

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