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[ SECRET POST #4328 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4328 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Red Green Show]

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[Overwatch]

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06. [SPOILERS for The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina]

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07. [SPOILERS for The Haunting of Hill House]

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Discourse is fine, but those particular things called out in the secret are accusations without basis.

It's unreasonable to make those accusations without some basis, but all of those things are also things that do happen. Sometimes, they're even done by people who say that they don't do them.

Nayrt, but if someone ships a M/F coupling in a show, getting in their face and saying, "YOU ONLY SHIP THEM BECAUSE YOU'RE HOMOPHOBIC!!" is going to do what exactly?

It's unreasonable to make that accusation without some specific basis. The fact of shipping an M/F coupling is not sufficient basis.

Agreed, so... people need to dial down being accusatory based on flimsy evidence, as in OP's secret?

I can imagine situations where any of the B points would be a justified point to make, where people would also make all of the OP arguments against them.

I think people should use their sense. But I think people generally underestimate how common these issues are, and I don't think a "golden rule" of always live and let live and never make criticisms is the path forward either.

DA. LOL, you both are very behind on the discourse. If you're going to argue that it's wrong, at least check up on how bad fandom is right now. I've seen it put out there multiple times that merely shipping a m/f couple is grounds for an LGBT+ person to be thrown out of the community. The m/f discourse for tumblr is:

-all female characters are lesbians, all male characters are gay, even if they're canonically bi, even if they're canonically married to the opposite gender. If you disagree, you are a homophobe. Pointing out things like "this character is married to someone of the opposite gender" and "they're canonically bi, dude" gets accusations of homophobia. Even logical ones like "Why not call her bi because she's happily married with fifteen kids?" gets you accusations of homophobia.
-therefore, your m/f ship is homophobic, even if it's canon, the anti headcanons them as lesbian and gay respectively, and the anti can and will try and call out people for not bowing down to my headcanons.
-the creators are evil and homophobic for not realizing these characters the anti headcanons as gay are gay, and the anti will send death threats and threaten suicide whenever my favorite characters so much as get in a ten mile radius with a character of the opposite gender
-When the creators exasperatedly tell me the ship (which had no basis other than my headcanons) is not happening, The anti will threaten suicide, crytype, try and send death threats rinse and repeat. A few times it's resulted in creators/actors simply deleting social media to escape it.
-when the anti tries to get a character as bi in canon, they mean "I want a gay character, but this character is too into the opposite gender." I can't count the amount of people who went "Make Lance Bi!" but actually meant "but only gay for Keith" and who freaked out when he had feelings for a girl.

It usually has two endings: the first, the anti eventually leaves the "homophobic fandom" and vagueblogs about it constantly, or worse, they start a crit-blog and hatewatch and harass anyone who doesn't block them.

Also, this isn't exaggerated. This literally happened right in Overwatch fandom (the Genji/Mercy lines had people threatening suicide and telling people to kill themselves in the tags, for example) and more recently, the Voltron fandom. The m/f doesn't even have to be real for people to lose their shit over it in fandoms these days. See, Overwatch fandom again.

*Applause!*

I get that what you are describing is an overreaction, and that it upsets people it is aimed at, but I can't feel sorry for m/f shippers because they get 95% of canon ships already.

When gay and bi characters have same sex romances at a rate greater in media than real life, it'll be reasonable to fret about these tantrums.

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