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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-08-24 05:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #597 ]


⌈ Secret Post #597 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 21 pages, 502 secrets from Secret Submission Post #086.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ], [ 1 - what ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

#163

[identity profile] ladywilde80.livejournal.com 2008-08-24 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Whatever.

I could care less that Mohinder is hooking up with someone. I just wish it was a character who had more too offer him and the series in general i.e. Eden.
If they had kept her on and developed her as a love interest for Mohinder, I would have been a very happy girl.

Maya is badly written, one dimensional, and an emotional mess. Is it really a smart idea for the writers to take a woman (or anyone) and drop them smack dab in the middle of a new romance after all that she went through in season 2?

Seems like a poor idea IMO.

And yes, I am a Mylar shipper and no, I am not delusional enough to think that it will ever be canon.
I am just sick of seeing the female characters in my fandom as one noted and often ridiculous.
Maya deserves her own story - and not as a set piece or a prop device but as an active participant all her own.

That is all.

Re: #163

[identity profile] postal152.livejournal.com 2008-08-24 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Maya deserves her own story - and not as a set piece or a prop device but as an active participant all her own.

EXACTLY - to me it seems forced, like the writers are trying to validate her as a member of the show by putting her with one of the long-standing characters. But I find it kind of irritating, as she could be *made* interesting all by herself. Why does she need a love interest? Plus, first she's exchanging saliva with Sylar just moments after he offed her brother, now Mohinder.... It gives me the creepy vibe that now her very male brother is dead, she needs another man in her life to "take care of her."

Agh. tl;dr, I'm sorry for the verbal diarrhea, it just starts coming and doesn't stop.... o_o

Re: #163

[identity profile] ladywilde80.livejournal.com 2008-08-24 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It gives me the creepy vibe that now her very male brother is dead, she needs another man in her life to "take care of her."

I agree 110%

I think they are making a HUGE mistake with her character but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Re: #163

(Anonymous) 2008-08-24 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Reading comprehension 0%, sorry to say.

Re: #163

(Anonymous) 2008-08-25 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Considering that the secret was about Maya hate combined with hatred for the sexuality of other women on the show, yeah. Unless you see yourself in there and are just being really defensive about i--

Nevermind, I see. I suppose you did get the point.

Re: #163

[identity profile] ladywilde80.livejournal.com 2008-08-25 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry if I seem as if I have the need to defend myself. If I do it is only because people like you seem to equate dislike for a character with being sexist.
That is not the case, I dislike the character for the reasons I stated in my original comment, none of which had anything to do with her being a woman.

Re: #163

(Anonymous) 2008-08-25 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, you REALLY don't get it. Seeing as how the secret as about not just hating on Maya but on all the other female characters at the same time.

So defensive, you are. I guess you really DO see yourself in the secret.

Re: #163

[identity profile] ladywilde80.livejournal.com 2008-08-25 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
That WAS my point. I don't see myself in that secret in the slightest.

I like and respect every female character on the show EXCEPT Maya. So?
How then does that make me sexist? Do tell?

Re: #163

(Anonymous) 2008-08-25 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Wait a second. In your original comment you said this: I am just sick of seeing the female characters in my fandom as one noted and often ridiculous. And now you say this: I like and respect every female character on the show EXCEPT Maya. Sounds like kind of a contradiction to me. Unless by "female characters" plural, you actually meant "Maya."

Re: #163

[identity profile] ladywilde80.livejournal.com 2008-08-25 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I can like and respect a character and still feel as if the writers on occasion but them into situations that are ridiculous.
Did I care much for most of Claire's season 2 storyline? Do I like the character, yes I do very much.

Now you are just grasping at straws here.

Re: #163

(Anonymous) 2008-08-25 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
That wasn't the anon you've been talking with, and while I agree with her comment, I'm just going to roll my eyes and repeat my original "Reading comprehension 0%"

The secret was talking about fans who hate Maya and, while they may not hate the other female characters on the same scale, make snide comments about them. If you're trying to convince yourself that's not you, fine. But the fact that you assume I'm calling you sexist when the secret is clearly talking about people who have issues with all the female characters? Either you suck at reading, or you're protesting way too much.

Re: #163

[identity profile] ladywilde80.livejournal.com 2008-08-25 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe if you people grew a pair, I could keep better track of who I was conversing with...

Whatever.

Re: #163

(Anonymous) 2008-08-25 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Oh not that, "anons are all cowards" things again. If you think being anonymous makes you a coward, why are you on a community dedicated to anonymity?

Re: #163

[identity profile] ladywilde80.livejournal.com 2008-08-25 01:45 am (UTC)(link)

What are you my stalker? Do you troll here waiting for me to make a post? Because that was uh, months and months ago.

Seriously. You are wasting my time. I said what I wanted to say. Get over it.

Re: #163

(Anonymous) 2008-08-25 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, you're self-centered. It's a common sentiment amongst the butthurt around here. When a couple of anons comment people go "you're such cowards! Sign in and say this stuff!"

Re: #163

[identity profile] ladywilde80.livejournal.com 2008-08-25 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I posted this secret about three hours ago and again and again you have come back to reply to this, excuse me for feeling 'self centered' here but I am not hanging at your comment, now am I?

Re: #163

(Anonymous) 2008-08-25 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Is it really a smart idea for the writers to take a woman (or anyone) and drop them smack dab in the middle of a new romance after all that she went through in season 2? ... Maya deserves her own story - and not as a set piece or a prop device but as an active participant all her own.

I adore Maya, so naturally I don't agree (in entirety, at least) with your criticism of her, but I do absolutely agree with this. I hate the idea of her hooking up with Mohinder for precisely those reasons. (Well, and also because I find Mohinder about as interesting as watching paint dry, but that's another topic altogether.) Given the vast amount of crap Maya went through in season two, and the fact that she's already been betrayed by one male she cared for, I don't understand why on earth the writers seem to think it's a good idea to have her getting it on with another guy already. The fact that their main motivation for it seems to be because they just want some steamy sex scenes for the adolescent male demographic makes me even more pissed off.

I guess I shouldn't completely rule out the possibility that Maya can have a romance with Mohinder and simultaneously be her own character and have a cool storyline. But given the writers' track record with romantic plotlines, my hopes are really low.

Re: #163

[identity profile] ladywilde80.livejournal.com 2008-08-25 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I appreciate your well-thought and intelligent comment. I am sorry if I seem harsh in my criticism of Maya. I would love to see the writers do something with her because I feel as if she hasn't had much to do thus far. It seems like a huge waste of what could be a very strong and interesting female character. Now, I for one adore Mohinder as a character and even so I am still in full agreement that rushing her into a new romance is weak on their parts.

Yet, despite everything I am trying to keep an open mind with both characters and how they will be portrayed in season 3, singular and as a couple.

I agree the show doesn't have a good track record in regards to romantic relationships.

I guess we will just have to wait and see...

Re: #163

[identity profile] kalikahuntress.livejournal.com 2008-08-25 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I really adore you for writing this, and I completely agree. I was so excited about what it seemed like they were doing for Maya and I just feel letdown and angry with NBC.