[ SECRET POST #4342 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4342 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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03. [SPOILERS for Daredevil season 3]

[Wilson Fisk/Vanessa Mariana]


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04. [SPOILERS for Daredevil season 3]



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05. [SPOILERS for Shameless (US)]



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06. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who season 11, episode 3 - "Rosa"]



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07. [SPOILERS for House of Cards]

[Robin Wright as Claire Underwood]


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08. [WARNING for discussion of non-con]

[Die Hard]


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09. [WARNING for discussion of child/spousal abuse]

[My Hero Academia]












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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[kamino_neko]

They weren't standing there, watching Dr King get shot. The fact that they couldn't do anything about it wouldn't be as visceral as watching Parks getting arrested - and may not have even occurred to anyone except the Doctor. Time travel isn't really something the human brain instinctively grasps.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't buy this at all. Changing history and the possible repercussions of one's actions is one of the main issues that always comes up with people talk about time travel. Not being physically there at the moment doesn't preclude the possibility of warning Dr. King about his eventual assassination (or more accurately, being upset that they can't warn him about what's going to happen), and I don't believe that it's a question that would never cross an intelligent person's mind.

[kamino_neko]

'Immediacy' has a huge effect on human psychology.

They've already been told that they can't change history. Without the visceral immediacy of it, they won't suddenly be thinking 'but what if yes'.

Again, they're linear humans. 'Martin Luther King is assassinated' is something that happened in the past for them. 'But time travel' doesn't change that - again, without the event happening right in front of them, it's nothing but an abstract idea, not a concrete truth.

Either it wouldn't occur to them to think they'd be able to change the past, or it would be easier to remind themselves that they knew that they were already told they couldn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope, sorry, still not buying it. It's human nature to worry and struggle over things they cannot change. Problems don't always vanish from our minds just because they're no longer in front of our faces. When humans are told they can't do something, they don't all go, "Welp, that's it then, I'll take your word for it 100% and I won't think about it anymore." It IS human nature to think "but what if yes"! I honestly don't even know what species you're describing, but it doesn't sound like humans at all. Certainly not the ones with major roles in Doctor Who.


It doesn't make sense to argue that MLK's assassination doesn't occur to them as a problem because it's in the past when... they're in the past, MLK is alive and literally in front of them and Rosa Parks is in a very similar position and yet they care a great deal about her situation. What happened in the episode was not, IMO, logical human behavior applied to characterization, it was the writers wanting to focus on Rosa Parks and not MLK, so they're just going to... well, focus on Rosa Parks and kind of handwave over the whole MLK assassination topic.

[(Anonymous)]

You're telling me that people from Earth... who are now traveling in a magic police box with a magic person who does crazy amazing things all the time... who have just traveled back to a different place and time... are NOT going to think "but what if yes" for any given situation? They're living "but what if yes" every single day they're in the TARDIS, flying through space and time.

It's also hilarious and ironic that you're positing this on FANDOM secrets when fandom simply wouldn't exist without millions of people thinking "but what if yes". Hell, no art or inventions would exist if human beings weren't evolved to think "but what if yes" in all sorts of unlikely and improbably situations, including whatever device you're currently using to access the internet. Immediacy and immediate problems might circumvent that tendency for brief periods of time, but there's no way it's going to kill a creative, smart person's ability to think, speculate and use their imagination the way you're suggesting it does.