[ SECRET POST #4342 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4342 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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03. [SPOILERS for Daredevil season 3]

[Wilson Fisk/Vanessa Mariana]


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04. [SPOILERS for Daredevil season 3]



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05. [SPOILERS for Shameless (US)]



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06. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who season 11, episode 3 - "Rosa"]



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07. [SPOILERS for House of Cards]

[Robin Wright as Claire Underwood]


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08. [WARNING for discussion of non-con]

[Die Hard]


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09. [WARNING for discussion of child/spousal abuse]

[My Hero Academia]












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Comments

What's up with readers of literary fiction scoff at SFF novels?

[(Anonymous)]

/act like all SFF novels not written by Tolkien are trashy?

Re: What's up with readers of literary fiction scoff at SFF novels?

[(Anonymous)]

Some people are just dicks. Some people are just snobby, or have very narrow definitions of what's allowed to be good.

But also, a lot of SFF is pretty bad, and that often includes some of the stuff that active, vocal SFF fans are most passionate about. It's not historically a fanbase with super high standards - nerds overrate a lot of stuff.

Re: What's up with readers of literary fiction scoff at SFF novels?

[(Anonymous)]

But so much literary fiction is generic or outright terrible, too?

Including books that are really popular in/considered classics of the genre.

Re: What's up with readers of literary fiction scoff at SFF novels?

[(Anonymous)]

Bleh.

There's a lot of different ways of judging quality, if you really get down to it, and it's not like I'm some objective judge of it any more than anyone else is. And I'm not going to deny that literary fiction is a genre like any other, and does have bad books within it (and also, is hard to actually define the same way that other genres are).

But if you want my personal opinion, I think you're really overstating the case here. Yes, there are bad books in literary fiction, but not nearly as many as people make out, especially ones that are regarded as classics of the genre. They may not be to your taste, and they may have various defects and things that can be problematized, but that's not always the same as being "bad", not the same way that a lot of genre fiction is bad.

That's just my personal opinion, I know no one's going to agree with me, there's no easier argument in the world to make than to say that every book assigned in school is awful. But that's what I happen to think. Even though I love genre fiction and probably read more of it than I do literary fiction.

Re: What's up with readers of literary fiction scoff at SFF novels?

[(Anonymous)]

SFF has been a literary "ghetto" the same way comics and animation have been "ghettos" in media generally. People will assume it's all for kids, or is rapidly churned-out pulp for easy consumption, or doesn't deal with serious topics, or whatever. Obviously those things are not always true, but it's a stereotype/prejudice and not the result of people being objective and rational and conducting their own surveys of different genres.

Re: What's up with readers of literary fiction scoff at SFF novels?

[philstar22]

Because people enjoy being pretentious and judgey, I guess. I don't know. I love Tolkien, but I also like a lot of other fantasy authors.

Re: What's up with readers of literary fiction scoff at SFF novels?

[ninety6tears]

I hate that just as much as I hate SFF readers scoffing at lit fiction. But I have noted that most literary authors I love have respect for genre fiction.

Re: What's up with readers of literary fiction scoff at SFF novels?

[(Anonymous)]

Literary fiction used to be pretty widely derided too - if you were going to waste your time reading, it had damn well better be weighty nonfiction! - and the shitting on speculative fiction started as the usual "well, at least we're not those people", and never really stopped.

Re: What's up with readers of literary fiction scoff at SFF novels?

[(Anonymous)]

For the same reason why they scoff at all genre novels - it's literary snobbery with a hint of jealousy because genre fiction is more popular than literary fiction, even though it has less prestige.