[ SECRET POST #4345 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4345 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Sorry for the exceptionally late, thought I'd already posted this today! At least it'll be here for everybody in the morning.

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Comments

[philstar22]

Okay. I really, really don't think that would happen. If anything, Sirius would get himself killed being overprotective. Which is exactly what happened. I can buy Sirius being a terrible father in the sense that he doesn't know what he's doing and has a lot of issues that he hasn't worked on. But being neglectful in a way that hurt Sirius? Not a chance. Look at how he acted in OotP. Honestly it seems like OP is just looking for reasons to hate Sirius and is drawing things out of thin air.

[(Anonymous)]

He's the one who encouraged Harry to be reckless, tho. He wasn't being overprotective, he was seeing it as an adventure with Harry. Like, go reread shit, he was enjoying himself up until things went drastically south because he saw Harry as James 2.0.

[philstar22]

Really? He wasn't encouraging Harry to be reckless. He was encouraging Harry to be who he was (a protective person who needed to be involved and do something) and encouraging him in how to handle danger that was already coming his way. He wanted Harry to be aware and proactive. Not the same thing as reckless at all, especially considering Harry was always going to be involved being who he was. The others (mostly Molly) wanted to keep Harry in the dark, which was stupid since Voldemort was always going to make sure Harry was involved in things.

The minute Harry was actually in danger, Sirius was there. And he would have been there all along if he'd been allowed outside Grimmauld.

[(Anonymous)]

Sirius could not always be with Harry. That's the thing--even if he'd been allowed out. It's not physically possible for him to always be with Harry, no matter what universe. And yes, he indulged recklessness.

"Break into the Ministry? Sure!" was basically Sirius' TLDR response. It's not just "he was going to be involved anyway." There was no safety in place. The others wanted Harry to have a fucking childhood for as long as he could given he'd not had one, and he deserved at least that much.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think Sirius made the best of decisions in the fifth book, but then again, I also think by the fifth book it was a little late to want Harry to have anything like a childhood, with Voldemort back in action and actively out to get him. In that book, Harry and co were basically recruiting and training a militia force at school. He was clearly more invested in staying alive, and I would argue that many of his actions that year including the more reckless ones were a direct result of being given too little information about matters that gravely affected his well-being.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem is by book 5, we're deeply into the Hero's Journey and any idea that Harry should be protected for his "own" good and "So he can have a childhood" is so ridiculous, Molly comes off as an abusive parent rather than lovingly protective. Her idea is fine for books 1 and 2 maybe. Harry is up to his neck in the war. Voldemort is gunning for him. He's fifteen. You start thinking about survival rather than "they're children." Molly is frankly an IDIOT at this point.

Sirius and Arthur wanted to inform/train Harry and the others to protect themselves. War is not a regarder of persons. Watch The Incredibles and listen to Mrs. Incredible's speech. That's the right way to do it. Not, whatever Molly was doing. It was unneeded Drama.

Especially since Harry had "heeded the call" and had gone through the damn swamp and faced his fears (Voldemort) and next was betrayal and failure. Which the ministry plot SORT OF did. Just not well. The stakes were too low. (Stakes are very important.)

Now, Sirius probably wouldn't have been the best dad. Uncle would be better. If he had Arthur and Remus helping, he could have done it. But Arthur won't stand up to Molly soooo. Babies can really change people if they aren't completely selfish narcissists.