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Kind of frustrated with all this public mourning for a guy who was only marginally less evil than Reagan.

I think it's fine and all to be respectful of the deceased and, generally speaking, honor someone's positive accomplishments during their funerary periods.

But yeesh, yeah. Trump's so bad that people are getting nostalgic for the Bush's. He's whitewashing how horrible they were and the atrocities they committed.

I'm sure that the right wing will live by their principles and be very respectful of Jimmy Carter when he passes (God forbid) and not mock him or scorn him or talk about his failures. They're definitely sincere.

Of course they will. Not.

I get annoyed when people point out that the left wing isn't perfect either. Because that is true, yes. Democrats do some bad things too. Democrats are politicians too and play by the political games too. But it isn't the same. By a long shot. Republicans are so much worse that comments like that are completely meaningless and only hide what is really going on.

Civility is easier on a full stomach with your rights protected. And there's nothing wrong with joking about someone burning in hell if you think that's what they'd deserve.

I think there is a level of respect that I can appreciate. Like, Michelle Obama cancelling her book tour for the funeral was pretty cool. And I get not focusing too heavily on the horrible things he did because that might be a bit disrespectful. But when people pretend he was a great guy who never did anything awful, it bothers me.

It's definitely frustrating. It wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't part of the larger American pattern of refusing to ever acknowledge or engage with our history, particularly the bad aspects of it. We're so committed to amnesia - we don't want to understand or remember the things that Bush did, or any of our past political leaders did, or that we as a society did, even though the present is built on those things. From McCarthyism to the Iraq War and the Global Economic Meltdown. There are never any consequences or long term repercussions. We just make a prestige movie about it and assume that the problem is fixed. But it doesn't go away. The people who did these things don't disappear, nor do the impulses that led them to do it, unless we think about them and engage with them. And it makes us feel bad and so we don't. 80% of America prefers to live in a fantastical dream and it's killing us.

Continued Reagan's HIV policy, pretty much gave the game to the Conservative Christianity, and lived through fear that Desert Storm would turn into another Vietnam with a draft. Not times I remember fondly.

But it seems like most people just don't want to remember it. It's a bummer. So they just act like it didn't happen.

also said atheists were not real Americans and should be deported. (to where? Atheististan?)

People think that because someone cops it, it means they weren't shit in life.

Edited 2018-12-04 02:18 (UTC)

I think you'd be seeing less of it if anyone but Trump were president. Even when GHWB was an asshole, he had some dignity. The US, particularly the older, more conservative parts of it, have some nostalgia for that these days. Even some of the leftier people can appreciate a time when the President might have been sort of evil, but whose public embarrassments were mostly limited to having a VP who couldn't spell and got into fights with sitcoms. Plus, you know, a dog is sad.

The Atlantic is running a decent article about how GHWB was the last of the true WASP presidents, if you're interested.

I hear you. It's a sign of the times we live in where Republicans who were only moderately unfeeling, out of touch assholes look good in comparison to what we're dealing with now.

It’s just nostalgia for the days when the GOP’s aesthetic was callous disregard for the majority of humans instead of full on Captain Planet-style supervillainy.

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