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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-12-11 05:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #4360 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4360 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-12-12 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
They are not guilty of the same things at all.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-12 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
you're right, pedophilia and rape are way more okay to make light of.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-12 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
One was jokes. One was someone being homophobic.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-12 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, come on, people. It's totally OK to make gross, upsetting tweets about pedophilia and rape if you're joking about it. Not at ALL on the same level as being homophobic. Geez.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-12 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
You can take it how you want, but yes, I would prefer someone to be joking about shitty things rather than actually being about that life. Ideally I'd neither but given a choice, jokes every time.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-12 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Not everything that someone claims to be a joke is harmless or even meant to be. I know far too many people who hide their true selves and their responsibility for hurting others behind "can't you just take a joke?" I'm not saying the guy actually is a pedophile rapist, but real people have actually experienced those kinds of things just like people have actually experienced homophobia. You seem to be looking at it from the POV of the "joker" in question. I care more about the people reading tweets like this. The tweets were disgusting, unfunny and hurtful to real people. "Oh it was just a joke" is not a valid defense for them.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-12 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I agree that it's bad, and that the jokes are offensive, but I also think that the jokes are less bad than actually being a homophobe.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-12 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Not interested in pain and oppression Olympics, sorry.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-12 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not my point at all

(Anonymous) 2018-12-13 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you've missed mine completely too, so let's call it a day.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-12 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Yeah, but they aren't talking about 'people you know'... and most often, when someone asks, 'can't you take a joke', it's clear from the start that they weren't making a crack to begin with.

Comedy comes in all forms, offensive and otherwise- John Mulaney made a joke about chasing down a woman, who thought he was about to rape her, made it explicit that was the case, but no one is making secrets about that because it was the same segment he made the 'whats new pussycat' joke. Comedians tend to make jokes from real problems, the same way gay people can make gay jokes, black people can make black jokes, and oddly enough women about their vaginas/ect... And some are just better at being funny than others.
Usually it's to make light of an otherwise depressing situation. But every so often the base of the joke becomes the depressing situation, and it's the same way a straight black man shouldn't make a gay joke, a white gay man can't make black joke- even if everyone still think vaginas are hilarious for some reason... Purposely or not, it's how the joke is structured over how it can be delivered or recieved.

Obviously, you don't have to like it, and you have every right to be offended- but comedy, from what I see, is just like that...

(Anonymous) 2018-12-12 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course they aren’t making a joke to begin with - that’s my point. Calling something a joke doesn’t make it a joke and defending a poorly received one as a joke doesn’t make it ok. As mentioned below, comedy that caters to the lowest common denominator might be the norm but that doesn’t make it funny or exempt from criticism or pushback. And if we’re making a list of who shouldn’t be making what kinds of jokes, I’m gonna go ahead and add “nobody should be making jokes about rape and pedophilia.”