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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-12-15 04:26 pm

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Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-15 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't for one minute believe the idea that some '80s style slasher movie directors have insisted that the "virgin survives" trope is unintentional (the same one mocked in Cabin in the Woods).

I think it was probably intentional for some, but not for all?

I think "muggle" is derogatory.

How?
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Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2018-12-15 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
it really comes off as "we are better than these people" to me. it's slightly more polite than "mudblood" but that's it.

Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-15 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
All it says to me is that wizards and muggles are different. And they are different, I'm not sure how you can really get around that, no matter what term you use.
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Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2018-12-15 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I might be more inclined to think that if I could remember any character calling themselves a muggle.

Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-15 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
But we don't really see very many muggle characters, do we, especially not ones who know about magic. And people are obviously willing to call themselves "Muggle-born" or call their parents and loved ones Muggles...

IDK, I just kind of feel like I don't see what else they could have done instead. No matter what word you use for "non-wizard" the problem is still going to exist.
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Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2018-12-15 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
that's kind of my point. We don't see many of them because they are not considered important enough to the books' worldview to even be told what's going on. And magic is something one is born with in that world and can't be acquired, just harnessed by people who already have it.

Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-15 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm, I definitely get where you're coming from there, but that seems like a much deeper (and really interesting) problem with the series as a whole at that point!
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Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-12-16 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, really?
I think they're not in the books because the books are about wizards, particularly child wizards in a super-secret, very protected school, with a wizard government that's paranoid and hell-bent on no non-magical 'muggles' knowing about them.

Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-16 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I see it as similar to hippies calling people "squares" or SCA folks referring to "mundanes," which is to say, not derogatory but not entirely neutral.

Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-16 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I see what you're saying, but it seems to me like the distinction between muggles and wizards is way more real and fundamental than either of those things? Being able to do magic is kind of different from choosing to dress up on weekends and hit each other with foam swords.