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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-12-15 04:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #4354 ]


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Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

[personal profile] nightscale 2018-12-15 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I can only emphatically agree with this, so much so that I'd like to print it out in bright neon letters and hold it over the Thor fandom.

I love Loki alright? Be he's a little shitbag and causes all his own problems, that's not the fault of his family.
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Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

[personal profile] philstar22 2018-12-15 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. I hated him for so long. I like him now, but as the little shit he is. He's fun. He's also got issues.
nightscale: Yautja warrior (AvP: Predator)

Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

[personal profile] nightscale 2018-12-15 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked him since Thor 1 since he's my kind of out-for-themselves-villain, but I got fed up of the fandom very quickly with how they babied him for straight-up trying to murder people because he was upset. Or blaming Thor for his behaviour, when he was clearly no worse than any other sibling to Loki.

Tbh the later movies do show-case Odin as not the greatest father, but frankly this just means that he was an ass to them both at times, not just Loki but fuck knows people ignored that.

Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-16 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
100% agree!

Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-16 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I didn’t hate Loki, but as someone who wasn’t and isn’t a big Thor or MCU fan, Loki fandom and fandom Loki got on my nerves really quickly. I like him better when he’s sort of unwillingly on the heroic side, and funny, and the films make jokes at his expense, rather than focusing on his “Kneel before me, puny mortals” schtick.

I guess the thing that really made me not hate him was showing in the later films that he cared for Frigga and Thor and even Odin. I always loathe villains who are all about self-aggrandizement and how important they are and how their wants trump (<—there’s a great example) everyone else’s. I’m way more likely to root for villains who have someone/something they’ll stop being selfish for, even for a little while.
type_wild: (So what - Waya)

Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

[personal profile] type_wild 2018-12-15 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Good god, I watched a slew of MCU films only because I stumbled onto Thor 3 and loved Loki in it. And Loki is still the bit I liked best out of all of them, because I really liked all his ridiculous layers and woobiefying him just seems to be making him intentionally boring, ffs.
nightscale: Yautja warrior (AvP: Predator)

Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

[personal profile] nightscale 2018-12-15 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You got to miss the wonders that was 'the Tesseract was mind-controlling poor baby Loki and nothing he did in Avengers was of his own doing' type 'meta' in the fandom, it was truly a spectacular time.

woobiefying him just seems to be making him intentionally boring

Thus is my issues with pretty much all villain woobification, it takes away what makes them goddamn interesting in the first place(in some cases as there are villains who are just flat-out dull).

Re: What controversial fandom opinions do you have?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-16 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
Eh.

Wondering if Loki was playing the Chitauri so they'd go down in flames, while pretending to be their ally and possibly not entirely compos mentis while doing it makes that movie more fun for me. Sneaky and that. There's precedent with the Ice Giants, too.

And it explains that weird-ass speech about freedom in Stuttgart - he was selling a load of goods to possible eavesdroppers.

Each to their own headcanon, though.