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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-12-16 03:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #4365 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4365 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Stargate SG-1)


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[Great British Bake Off]


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[Umbrella Academy]


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[cook and food writer Samin Nosrat, Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat]


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(Kim Taehyung)


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[Avengers: Endgame]










Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 42 secrets from Secret Submission Post #625.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-16 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Something you want to vent about in fandom? Post it here

Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-16 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want fandom to implode all over once again, damnit.

Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-16 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
It shouldn't be that hard, when you're writing fic, to remember that the Doctor is an immortal space wizard and not a 16-year-old.

Obviously, not just an immortal space wizard, but that's always part of the personality.
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Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

[personal profile] philstar22 2018-12-16 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really love the whole A/B/O thing, but sometimes it hits a spot, so I go looking for one. And I get really sick of authors having random sentences saying that Alphas are always male. Why is that necessary? Why does that even make sense? And if your fic is slash, it doesn't even serve any sort of purpose. What is so horrible about the idea of female alphas. Honestly, I'd be more interested in reading A/B/O fics if there were more examples of female alphas.

Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-16 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Female alphas definitely exist. Mostly in f/f, and also like 90% of the time it'll be girl!penis, which doesn't personally work for me at all unfortunately, but hey.

Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-16 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
One thing I always thought with ABO, male omegas and female alphas, was how weird it was in-universe that the societies have purely RL values and prejudices. I mean, the standard ABO plot of repression/stigma against male omegas, and occasionally female alphas in stories where they exist. It makes sense RL, given real trans- and homophobia and sexism, but I'd have thought there'd be a lot more variety of stigmas in a society that's always had dual sexual characteristics as a feature of its biology.

In particular, I'd love to see ABO stories where the prejudice goes the other way, towards male alphas and female omegas, specifically because they lack dual characteristics. If we're imagining a society with prejudices still based on fertility and procreation. Like, male omegas and female alphas are basically hermaphroditic, and are considered the pinnacle of social desirability because they can fulfil either role in a relationship. And, by the same token, male omega/female alpha would be considered the ideal relationship model, because it maximises chances of procreation when both parties can trade off begetting and bearing children. It is considered the combination with the most flexibility and chance of success, and therefore the most desirable.

By contrast, male alphas and female omegas are considered lesser because they are purely geared towards one role or the other. They are considered biologically and socially limited, and therefore less desirable. They're acceptable, particularly when paired with each other, but are basically second-class in terms of social desirability.

Because you could do interesting things with something like that. You could have major taboos on relationships between single-sexed and dual-sexed individuals, but for the opposite reasons to RL. A male alpha mating with a male omega is considered demeaning to the omega, because his husband's limitations mean that he will in turn be stuck in one role for the rest of his life, unable to enjoy the full benefits of his sex. Same with male alpha/female alpha (demeaning to female), female alpha/female omega (demeaning to alpha), and male omega/female omega (demeaning to male). So there would be an element of homophobia and sexism to explore, but for very different reasons.

And maybe homosexual relationships between dual-sexed individuals are more acceptable than between single-sexed as well. Because two male omegas can still give each other a child, as can two female alphas, so they can still perform most of their social roles. Whereas two male alphas or two female omegas have all the problems RL gay/lesbian couples have when it comes to views on children and parenthood.

And trying to gain or lose sexual characteristics becomes a massive mess of issues, from ideas of people trying to cut out a vital part of themselves, or force their way into a higher social tier by falsehood, or any number of vicious social messes.

Basically, a society where the tiers of social acceptability are based not purely on one sex axis or the other, but on the combinations of the two. A society where dual-sexed individuals have more advantages than single-sexed ones. RL desires and prejudices are often based on a (predominantly) single-sexed view. A society where being dual-sexed has always been a mainstream option might develop different ones. Or extremely similar ones, but on slightly skewed lines.

Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds absolutely fascinating and if I ever get the inspiration I'll try and tackle a bit of that.

I started an A/B/O YEARS ago and never finished it centering around an omega who roided up for sports and presented as an alpha, and it meant to go into alpha/alpha (transalpha??) taboos... I'd never seen anything in A/B/O going into alpha/alpha and omega/omega and those prejudices against... secondary gender homosexuality I guess, along with the potential intricacies you pointed out. I wish I'd had the motivation to continue with that.

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Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2018-12-16 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Why does Dreamwidth not copy over links? I made a post with Gen Steve Rogers fic recs. I made it in pillowfort and then copied it to Tumblr. The links all followed it. Then I tried to put it on Dreamwidth and they didn't. BAH!
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Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-12-16 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
What do you mean by 'put it on DW'? Did you copy/paste, or do some kind of import?

If you have links in a post, I imagine you need to put in some html, unless you're using rich text (which i don't use so i have no clue about).....
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Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2018-12-16 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Copy/Paste. With the other sites I copy/pasted to it carried over the links (on the titles) that had already been made. With DW I am going to have to some HTML stuff. Which...I may get around to one day.

http://avengetheangels.tumblr.com/post/181180521827/steve-rogers-genfic-that-is-10000-or-more-words
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Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-12-16 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, yeah, a post like that really isn't gonna work on DW. You could just right-click copy the link and do an 'ugly' link at the end of the fic summary - quick and easy, if not particularly elegant.

Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're using markdown in Dreamwidth you have to put !markdown on the first line.

Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-16 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
This isn’t about something wrong with/in my fandoms, but it is a fandom related gripe.
I was originally going to go to a fandom convention for one of my favorite shows that I skipped because my mom was ill. Then I skipped the next one, because my mom was dying. The money I’d saved up to celebrate getting my bachelor’s degree and a promotion at work by doing something dumb and nerdy and extravagant went to mom’s care and the aftermath.

There’s a big screen-worn/used costume and prop auction for the fandom tomorrow. I have work, but I can probably finagle my breaks to bid on stuff. I love costumes and cosplay and I’m the nearly the same height as one of my favorite characters that has several costumes up for auction. I’d have to pull money out of my savings to cover anything I won, but I won’t be a pauper if I do.

Should I bid on anything, or should I just resign myself to being thrifty and sensible and accept that my reward for getting a promotion and a degree is that I got a promotion and a degree?
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Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-12-16 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
If you really feel like you'd love to have the thing, and you don't think you'll break the bank bidding - go for it!

Sounds like you deserve a little treat, anon.

Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, anon. You gave up the money you'd saved for something that was important to you to help your mom, which was a kind and selfless thing to do. You deserve to be able to do something for yourself now.

Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
It sounds like you really want to do it but you want us to be the bad guy in this situation and say no. So I'm gonna say no and if that's not the answer you wanted, you know what the right answer is.

Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
With any auction, decide on what you'd be willing to spend first and stick to it. Sometimes you're lucky and sometimes you're not.

Re: Fandom Gripes / Venting / Complaints

(Anonymous) 2018-12-17 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT—yeah I definitely have a limit I refuse to spend over. I’m hoping people who win props and costumes I’m interested in are actually in fandom and not resellers/the kind of private collector who disappears to sit on their bounty for decades. Hopefully the winners will be able to find somewhere to post photos to share now that tumblr looks to have gone tits—heh—up. I may finally make a dreamwidth account if I win anything so I can post reference photos for other cosplayers.