[ SECRET POST #4366 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4366 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Aren't all the male characters also tied up in various love interests?

[(Anonymous)]

Not all of them, I don't think. There are more male characters than female characters, aren't there?

[(Anonymous)]

The only one who isn't is Will. And that is because he has been too busy being tortured.

[(Anonymous)]

Poor Will!
(Also if he turns out to be gay, an unsettling trend)

[(Anonymous)]

Mains (from Wikipedia):

Joyce Byers*
Jim Hopper*
Mike Wheeler*
Eleven*
Dustin Henderson*
Lucas Sinclair*
Nancy Wheeler*
Jonathan Byers*
Karen Wheeler*
Martin Brenner
Will Byers
Steve Harrington*
Max Mayfield*
Billy Hargrove*
Bob Newby*
Sam Owens

I put a star by the ones with any sort of romantic tension/interest portrayed onscreen.

Which leaves Will (mostly incapacitated both seasons) and the research guys.

[(Anonymous)]

Brenner and Owens are not in the show enough to be counted as mains, imo. They are definitely supporting characters.

[(Anonymous)]

"from Wikipedia" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Stranger_Things_characters)

[(Anonymous)]

Well, Wikipedia is wrong. The IMDB list from Max Mayfield up is more accurate.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4574334/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

[(Anonymous)]

Whoa. Why is there a star next to Dustin?? He's not being set up with anyone...is he?

[(Anonymous)]

He had a sort of love triangle with Max and Lucas.

[(Anonymous)]

He was portrayed as crushing on Max, which put a strain on his friendship with Lucas.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh. That's a relief. For a second, I was thinking that people were slashing him with Steve, which ummm.. Not my cup of tea.
(I mean, if people are, fine, I just didn't think there was any *canon* basis for it.)

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt I'm not going to lie, I kind of like the idea when Dustin is considerably older. But certainly there's no canon basis, no.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. Hopper's divorced, Will isn't, Steve isn't (anymore, LOL), Billy isn't unless he's getting on the side from Mrs. Wheeler. The various supporting characters like the doctors at the lab aren't, either.

[(Anonymous)]

Hooper? Really? He's not in a romantic storyline?

[(Anonymous)]

Hopper and Joyce are clearly being set up with each other. Steve was in a love triangle with at the beginning. Bill could hardly be called a main character. And I bet a lot of female doctors in the lab are also not in relationships.

[(Anonymous)]

Re: Hopper and Joyce - probably true, but I mentioned him because he isn't romantically involved with anyone for the majority of the series. And I said that Steve wasn't anymore. Billy I threw in for teh lulz. As for lab people, anon asked specifically about male characters.

[(Anonymous)]

In that case, none of the characters from the shitty sisters episode were in relationships.

[(Anonymous)]

Dustin and Lucas had a season where they weren’t involved with it. As opposed to Max who feels like she was solely introduced for love interest related friction. Also it’s different because the male characters get arcs outside of who is gonna get the girl.

[(Anonymous)]

the male characters get arcs outside of who is gonna get the girl

You mean as opposed to... Eleven? Joyce?

[(Anonymous)]

eleven and Joyce both could have had arcs without love interests. Yet they still got shoe horned into the role. When you have four female main characters and all of them get stuck in relationships when they could be independent of it that’s not a good thing.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

It's tricky to talk about them being "shoe horned into" the role, when the male characters are engaged in romantic storylines to pretty much the same extent. Is there something different about the way the male and female characters are treated in those storylines? Or is this an expectations thing where we particularly want to see female characters who don't have romantic storylines?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Seconding everything you're saying here.

Is there something different about the way the male and female characters are treated in those storylines?

My opinion is, no, not especially.

Or is this an expectations thing where we particularly want to see female characters who don't have romantic storylines?

I'm completely fine with how the show's been going in this regard. I mean, I could have done without the lucas/sadie/dustin thing, and if it were entirely up to me steve/nancy/johnathan would be a threesome, but I wasn't particularly bothered by the relationship stuff in S2. However, I think you're right about a lot of viewers have a desire to see female characters in particular without romantic storylines, and being annoyed when that desire isn't met.

[(Anonymous)]

*lucas/max/dustin