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⌈ Secret Post #4382 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Extremely yes. Keep in mind "lesbian" is consistently one of the most popular categories of mainstream (largely male-oriented) pornography. And although written erotica is generally less male-oriented than professional video, the same pattern exists. For reference, I fall into the category myself (both erotic and non-erotic fiction, really).

OTOH, that doesn't necessarily mean that straight men like the same kind of f/f erotic fiction as queer women. It's hard to generalize about this, on either side. But straight men and queer women are somewhat different audiences, and what they're looking for often doesn't always line up very closely.

[greghousesgf]

I've noticed two major differences. The women in f/f erotica intended to appeal to men are always much more femme looking and the dialogue is much sillier than in f/f erotica intended to appeal to women.

[philstar22]

Also, a lot of the f/f porn/erotica aimed at men is really aimed at men. By that I mean, they are playing with the camera in the same way women do in m/f porn/erotica. It isn't about the women's pleasure even though it is only featuring women. Which is not something I see too much in m/m erotica aimed at women. The men involved are in it for themselves, not their audience (or in the case of porn are in it for themselves and the audience, but then again m/m porn isn't generally aimed at women).

[greghousesgf]

heh. I'm a straight woman who prefers m/m erotica.

[philstar22]

I'm a bi woman who does m/m or f/f for erotica but only m/m for porn. F/F porn is just creepy the way it is filmed, honestly. And I can only enjoy something when it seems like the people involved are actually enjoying themselves too.

[greghousesgf]

." And I can only enjoy something when it seems like the people involved are actually enjoying themselves too."
Amen, sister!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure this is a gendered thing, as I'm sure you can say this about a lot of m/m fanfiction written by women for women.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah m/m fanfic or fandoms really aren't at all immune to the same fetishy shit that straight men do with f/f, but fandom sure likes to pretend this is the case.

the only difference is that men making live-action f/f porn are getting money from it and it's a lot more mainstream, so i can understand people taking more onus with it. hell i do because of how gross it can be about my orientation and how alien f/f made by men feels, they're not people they're objects and it really comes across.

but i've absolutely read fanfic or seen people in m/m fandom who are every bit as gross as those fetishistic straight men, it's just that m/m erotica is a bit more niche and it's catering to women's interests so funnily enough a majority female space like fandom gives it a pass.

[(Anonymous)]

I also think that it's much, much harder to consistently identify when written erotica is being objectifying than it is for visual media. Everything is much more of a grey area. Both with f/f, and m/m. It's a lot harder to generalize.

[(Anonymous)]

OTOH, that doesn't necessarily mean that straight men like the same kind of f/f erotic fiction as queer women. It's hard to generalize about this, on either side.

It does seem fair to say, though. Just like, as a generalization, it does seem that the kind of m/m straight women like isn't always the same as the kind of m/m that gay/bi men like. Which I think is, for the most part, fine.