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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-01-04 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #4383 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4383 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Queer Eye, "Dega Don't"]


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[Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald]


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[Dynamo aka Steven Frayne (magician)]


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[Trillion: God of Destruction]


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08. [SPOILERS for Tidelands season 1 finale]




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09. [WARNING for discussion of rape]
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[Goblin Slayer anime, linked for rape]
























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(Anonymous) 2019-01-04 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you genuinely think that if this guy were open to that, there's no other way he would've possibly encountered a gay person in real life without a reality show intervention? He lives in the South, not on the moon. The whole "oh but they've never encountered X" argument simply does not fly in this day and age unless you're literally a hermit.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-04 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a difference between knowing X exists and actually becoming friends with X.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Are you the anon I was talking to? If so, would you care to revise your statement from "People don't learn unless they are exposed to different things" to "People don't learn unless they become friends with different people"?

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but I guess I have more appreciation for everyone who manages not to support hatred and bigotry against people they don't know personally and are on friendly terms with. Doesn't seem like that ought to be so difficult, but...

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
It is when you are surrounded by and raised in bigotry.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
The poor dears, only bein' racist because they don't know right from wrong

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
See, if everyone had your attitude, progress would never be made. Thankfully, more intelligent people exist.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
It sure is terrible how people go around holding bigots accountable for their beliefs, speech, and actions, isn't it.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
So do you disagree that racism is morally wrong? Or do you disagree that people are smart enough that they should be able to recognize it's morally wrong?

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhh. I might buy that if...

* Really? NOBODY in your family/home town is a decent individual?
* You're very young and/or have remained extremely isolated and sheltered from the outside world.

But at some point people watch television, they go to school, they meet other people outside of their families, they find the internet, they gain more life experience... and that's where the "I grew up in a bigoted environment" argument becomes less and less convincing. After a point, if you're in a bigoted echo chamber, it's because you choose not to leave it or hear other viewpoints.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Seeing that people exist does not break down barriers of prejudice. Talking to them, having heart to hearts with them, that does.

It is a cheesy as fuck format but this episode was exactly what the reboot was about- breaking down those last barriers.

Queer Eye literally bursts into your house and makes you question your prejudices. And precisely because it's a cheesy TV show it's not threatening. It's fun! It's tongue in cheek! It's enough to sow the seeds of real change in guys like the one in that episode.
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[personal profile] morieris 2019-01-05 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
You'd be surprised at how insulated people can make themselves.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
No I wouldn't, because that was my point. IMO, when people insulate themselves from diversity or knowing the people they're supporting hate against, they don't get to use the "haven't been exposed to" excuse for why they're close-minded bigots.
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[personal profile] morieris 2019-01-05 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, I misunderstood.

You're right tbh.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
No problem. I could've made my point more clear!

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, when I moved to my town with my partner, we were the only queer people in town and the only ones anyone knew at all. Now there's five lesbians, one trans guy and one gay guy, but somebody had to be first. And the three nearest towns have zero out queer people. Yes, it's a small and mostly white town, but it's certainly not impossible.