[ SECRET POST #4389 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4389 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

What's to be freaked out by? Nothing wrong with liking traits in characters that you admire in others.

I know plenty of people who say they want a partner just like [a family member or friend they've known for ages and think is awesome], but the point is that person isn't the friend or family member because it's weird if it's actually them. That seems pretty common.

[(Anonymous)]

But that's not quite what OP is talking about. In their scenario, it's not just liking traits in characters that you also like in people IRL. It's about shipping a relationship - presumably, romantically - that's comparable and has a similar dynamic to the familiar relationship between OP and their father. That would definitely freak me out.

I know plenty of people who say they want a partner just like [a family member or friend they've known for ages and think is awesome],

TBH, I would actually be slightly weirded out by this as well, but to a much lesser extent than what OP described.

[(Anonymous)]

Not really? Considering the characters are not her and her dad. Plus OP says the characters are both men who are of similar ages, which changes the external dynamic already, even if they act in similar ways.

I mean, sure, replace me and my random IDK, uncle, with two people of compatible sexualities and ages and sure, maybe someone might perceive that as romantic. I might perceive that as romantic. But uh, we're not comparable sexualities and ages, so what does that have to do with anything?

[(Anonymous)]

It's not just that someone might perceive the relationship as romantic. It's that OP themselves notices the same dynamics and perceives them as romantic in one instance and familial in another.

And I'm... not sure if I can explain why it's weird. It just feels obviously weird to me, to have an OTP that's a romantic relationship and then notice that it has the same specific dynamics as your relationship with your father.

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhh, not to me. Just the fact that familial roles exist - and are recognized - already make them not exactly the same. A mother who makes a lunch every day for her daughter is already different from a woman who makes lunch every day for her girlfriend. Even if they say exactly the same things, look at the other person lovingly, and kiss them on the cheek before they leave the house.

[(Anonymous)]

But... according to OP's story, it's not just similar familial roles. It's the specific dynamics of their relationship. The way they talk and their opinions and the way they interact.

[(Anonymous)]

I think I don't understand how they can be exactly the same when one group acknowledges and respects a father-daughter relationship, and the other group is two unrelated men.

And if they aren't exactly the same, what's the problem?

[(Anonymous)]

OP looks at two characters having a conversation, and thinks that they want to fuck each other. Then she realizes that it's the same kind of conversation that she and her father have.

HOW CAN THAT NOT BE WEIRD.

[(Anonymous)]

Uhhhhh, I can do that easily because I know that no matter what we're saying, I have no wish to fuck my dad, and acknowledge that context changes the meaning and interpretation of very similar events?

I can look at two unrelated guys staring each other down and think 'those guys wanna fuck' and those same two guys in the same AU where they are brothers, both acknowledge they are brothers and have no incesty feelings doing the same, and interpret it as rivalry.

Cause... context matters...

[(Anonymous)]

+100000. Exactly.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a different anon, but I also agree that OP can understandably feel kinda icky about having romantic preferences for characters in a way that reminds them of their own parent.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure. And no one is saying 'it's wrong to feel icky.' Be grossed out by whatever you want to be grossed out by.

I'm saying 'it's nothing to 'freak out' over,' it's a common thing that happens to people, and doesn't necessarily mean anything significant.

Some anon is finding that objectionable or wrong for reasons I don't understand.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a completely new anon and I have no horse in this race but I just wanna say I find this scenario way too specific to be that common. Like maybe one or two things a character does can remind you of someone, that's normal, but the OTP has ENTIRE CONVERSATIONS that are just like entire conversations they have with their dad? That's pretty unusual.

[(Anonymous)]

Depending on the medium? I can believe it. Plenty of slice of life out there.

But honestly? This whole thing is pretty clear cut to me:

OP wants to fuck her dad? -> OP has a problem worth freaking out over

OP does not want to fuck her dad? -> there is no potential problem besides OP finding a squick, and no amount of hand-wringing over fictional media is going to make this a problem in real life

[(Anonymous)]

People should only want to fuck who they want to fuck, not actually care about each other because that is purely familial and INCESTUOUS.

[ninety6tears]

Yeah. There are a lot of "oh no, I married someone just like my parent" jokes but it's not a negative phenomenon if we're unconsciously modeling after positive relationships.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I mean, if the parent is a great role model and an awesome person, are you supposed to avoid awesome people with traits you like, just because they're too similar to your parents in behavior and views?

Some people are bothered by that, but it's also fine to not be bothered by that.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not just "CharA is like my dad"

It's "CharA is like my dad and CharB is like me"

[ninety6tears]

So? Being like one of your parents is often part of the joke.

[(Anonymous)]

MTE.

"So?" was literally my exact reaction as well. Like, literally, so? How does that make any difference whatsoever?

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this is it!

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

Profound.

[(Anonymous)]

"I married someone like my parent" usually implies the "and CharB is like me" part, considering CharB is literally "me" in that case.