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⌈ Secret Post #4390 ⌋

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""He seemed like a quiet kid," she (a former teacher) said. "I don't recall anything that would have explained this, by any means.""

People ALWAYS SAY THIS. Seriously. Are people just in denial, or are quiet people out there spontaneously combusting into evilness?

You can't tell whether someone is evil based on whether or not they're quiet. The problem is our deep-rooted belief that we can tell whether someone is evil by the look in their eyes (or whatever), and our denial of the idea that we can love someone and they can still be a person who is evil and chooses to do evil things.

Probably because people doing shit like this have to naturally be secretive.

Granted, that isn't universal. Plenty of serial killers are well known for being loud mouths.

I think there has to be at least SOME level of denial involved, because... let's face it, the people who do this kind of thing are usually pretty weird and messed up. You have to be messed up in order to do it in the first place, and I simply can't believe that there aren't any sort of tells beforehand based on my own experience with kids who turned out to be trouble (and not even that sort of level of violent trouble).

Eh. That's true in some cases, but not all. Look how like BTK went undetected. He was married. He had kids, volunteered, was active in his church and coached sports. But there's no denying that he was one MESSED UP DUDE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader

I feel like a middle school teacher can't be expected to predict the future like that. They probably reached out to her in hopes of some juicy details or but really she's just doing her job. She can't recall anything that would have explained this but...what exactly is she trying to recall? I think we all imagine people like this to have some history like torturing animals or writing fucked up poems about kidnapping people but life isn't that clear-cut. Plus she probably has a lot of kids.

Anyway I'm glad the girl is alive and the fucker is in custody. I'm not sure why this is my first time hearing this story.

I was a quiet kid in high school and I totally heard my share of "jokes" that I was hiding evil behind my quietness. Including a girl who wasn't joking (she just didn't like me because she was always getting in trouble for being too loud) when she said "It was the quiet ones who shot up Columbine, you know."

Does anyone have any good examples of people saying "Yeah, that person was always a creepy fucker?" They must exist.

the idiot who sent mail bombs to democratic congresspeople and supporters last year. his van was covered in right-wing propaganda and he openly told everyone he had contact with that they were going to hell for one reason or another.

The asshole who ran down a few dozen people in Toronto last spring. There were a few quotes from his classmates that boiled down to 'yeah, he had more red flags than the running of the bulls'.

Well, it's definitely not spontaneous evil combustion. I think it's more complicated than simply being in denial, though. Mostly it's just that people aren't very observant and they easily miss red flags. IRL, your mind doesn't jump to "OMG kidnapper/rapist!" or "Holy shitballs, serial killer!" just because someone's a little weird or says something off. LOTS of people are weird and say weird stuff.

When it comes to teachers vs. students or people vs. their co-workers, you just don't know them well at all. Just because you see them every day doesn't mean you have anything more than a superficial relationship with them. You have no idea what's going on inside their head and you're really too busy to find out, tbh. "He was so quiet" is something people say when they don't have any memories of someone that stand out. They weren't exceptional in an either negative OR positive way. That's 99% of the people you meet.

Yet at the same time, people like to think they'd know if someone was an evil bastard. They like to think that they'd somehow... just... KNOW. That's not realistic, but it doesn't stop people from thinking that deep down, they'd figure it out somehow.

Excellent post.

I agree on the idea that a lot of people probably missed red flags, too. Little things that, taken on their own, might not have seemed a big deal to those who knew him, but when you put it all together, it reveals a rather unsettling pattern.

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