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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-01-12 03:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #4391 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4391 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Return of the Obra Dinn]


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[The Sister of the Wood With a Thousand Young]


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[Venture Bros]


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[Titans]


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[The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest]


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[The Hunchback of Notre Dame]


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[B+T aka Baron & Toluca; Roswell (1999-2002)]










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(Anonymous) 2019-01-12 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to discuss this seriously BUT I AM DISTRACTED BY HER VOLDEMORT NOSE.



Yes. When I think about it all of the white Disney women and princesses are clothed very modestly, and the others are often not. This and the creepy Jafar scene are both very sexualised.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-12 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Tiana and Mulan dress as modestly or moreso than Cinderella or Snow White, and Ariel's at least half naked for at least half of her movie.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-12 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Tiana might be an exception, but I remember that Mulan is naked in multiple scenes for plot reasons.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-12 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but the objection was oversexualization? I wouldn't call Mulan's 'omg she's a woman' scene sexual in any way. At least, it never read that way to me at all.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-12 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe not sexual, but the visual of him standing over her when she's on the ground and partially naked is very uncomfortable.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-12 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? I didn't find it uncomfortable. I mean, I was expecting the reveal and she'd just been injured. Of course she's laying down and he's not?

(Anonymous) 2019-01-13 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I was thinking more when she's kneeling in the snow after being thrown out of the tent and she's trying to cover herself with a blanket, and he at one point appears to consider beheading her.

We're supposed to like him more because he decided not to murder her for the crime of being a woman. What a winner.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-12 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeeeees, but in a comical, not-actually-showing-anything-not-even-cleavage way, which is quite different from how Esmerelda is handled.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2019-01-12 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don’t think Mulan counts as a princess, although I’ll give you Tiana.

(How sexualized would you say Moana is? Or Pocahontas? Maybe the newer princesses are less sexualized than the Disney Renaissance.)

(Anonymous) 2019-01-12 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
well they said "disney women and princesses"

pocahontas was definitely sexualised to balls, moana wasnt imo. nani wasn't either.

that doesn't sound like many, but there weren't that many disney movies about woc so comparing is hard...

(Anonymous) 2019-01-13 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
The entire point of this particular scene was to be sexual, though, because Frollo has the hots for her. I mean, his entire song is about how much he desires her and the fact that it's at odds with his position and that she's a gypsy (and is therefore considered to be "lesser"). It's SUPPOSED to be sexual and uncomfortable because that is one of his key character points.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-13 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
It’s just the angle. She has a well defined nose in other shots.