[ SECRET POST #4391 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4391 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Return of the Obra Dinn]


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03.
[The Sister of the Wood With a Thousand Young]


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04.
[Venture Bros]


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05.
[Titans]


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06.
[The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest]


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07.
[The Hunchback of Notre Dame]


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[B+T aka Baron & Toluca; Roswell (1999-2002)]










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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I can see where there's something worth discussing in the 'WOC being more sexualized' argument but on the other hand I feel like the argument is a bit unfair when it comes to Hunchback. Esmeralda is supposed to be sexy and desirable, and it's a plot point that Frollo has the hots for her. I feel like most of the princesses -- and even with the Jafar scene I would count Jasmine in this group -- are not really supposed to be actively trying to be sexy. Like Pocahontas is definitely sexualized in her design and that's a problem, but Pocahontas the character isn't trying to be sexy. Esmeralda, though, she's sexy and she knows she's sexy, she does sexy dances and enjoys herself and I would argue she shows more agency over her own sexuality than any other Disney girl save maybe Meg. If you took that part away from her she would be an entirely different character and Frollo's reaction to her would probably change as well. I would consider Esmeralda being sexualized hugely different from characters like Jasmine or Pocahontas, it's an integral part of her character and it's hard to remove that without ending up with a totally different character.

(I suppose the other way around this would be to follow the book and make her Actually White, which is its own mess of terrible implications.)

[(Anonymous)]

Anon from just above and this 100%. Yeah, she's sexy, but it's not a case of the creators just deciding to make her sexy for no good/logical reason, it's a case of "she as a character is sexy and knows it and makes a deliberate, conscious choice to play on it when she feels like it." It's a part of her character rather than just an executive decision on the part of the character designers.