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⌈ Secret Post #606 ⌋

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First of all, you probably shouldn’t take anything I said too seriously, since this –is- fandom, and I –was- speaking in jest, but since you seem to actually want to know, ok.

Also, I do differentiate between Milo/Adrian and Peter/Nathan, and I don’t think there’s anything going on between either Milo/Adrian or Peter/Nathan. However, I DO think the subtext is there for anyone who wishes to see it, and TPTB (the actors, the writers, whoever) do a poor job of hiding it or discouraging it from fangirls who they –know- will analyze everything to hell. (Ask yourself, do they even really want to discourage it, seeing as it could bring them a whole new audience who are interested in seeing what all the fuss is about? Kring didn’t seem to be too upset about the thought that fangirls were seeing something ‘else’ between Nathan and Peter; the guy probably scoffed and went back to writing his much beloved brotherly scenes.)

Do some viewers interpret certain scenes and actions differently (even based on what they want to see?)? Of course. That’s the way things work. (Remember this is fandom honey, people don’t even have to be in the same series to be paired together.)

On the Milo/Adrian front, I’m simply saying that I feel they do no favors (or many favors, depending on who you ask) to discourage Peter/Nathan. Make no mistake, they have great chemistry, I just don’t think it’s the type of chemistry two people playing brothers should have. And don’t get me wrong, I think they’re both great actors, but I’ve never been able to convincingly see them as siblings. So, no, I can see the difference between Milo/Adrian and Peter/Nathan (and even see the difference between Peter and Nathan in other mediums than the TV show – the graphic novel, for instance – but this is about the TV show and their characters there), what I’m saying is I don’t think Peter and Nathan, as Milo and Adrian play them (which I guess is what you’re pointing out), seem quite normal on that front. In the end Milo and Adrian ARE Peter and Nathan though. Whatever Kring saw fit to be in the TV show is canon, so even if you argue Peter and Nathan aren’t looking at each others lips wistfully, they kind of are, because Milo and Adrian, their actors, saw fit to play the scene that way. (And hey, if Kring didn’t make them do another take, apparently he saw nothing wrong with it.) No, I don’t think ‘PETER stares at NATHAN’S lips wistfully’ was in the script, and I definitely don’t think that was Kring’s intention, but the brothers staring at each others lips still ended up in the finished product, so it’s still there for people to take notice of.

I hear ya. It's when people are utterly convinced Peter and Nathan are in a canon sexual relationship because, you know, "zomg see how they look at each other? PROOF!" that maybe I start looking at them like they're a little crazy. If they're aware, as you seem to be, that they are purposefully taking elements of canon in a way that can be extrapoled and interpreted to mean something other than the script implies, I have no qualms whatsoever about that.

And I'm inclined to agree about TPTB playing to it, definitely. They enjoy whatever attention they can get, and I think this one type in particular is one that amuses them very much, with which they liked to have fun and through which they may establish a sort of connivence with its audience, all in good fun.

Yea, I’m sure Kring didn’t start out going ‘let’s add subtext!’ but as he saw what kind of fandom the show garnered, I wouldn’t be surprised if he intentionally added certain things with the fangirls in mind. It’s what shows do; TPTB have admitted it in the past. (Not Kring or the Heroes PTB, that I know of anyway, but other PTB.)

And I would never be OMG CANON INCEST unless the incest was actually implied or explicitly shown. Shipping in fandom is fun for me, and sure there are moments where I take my ships pretty seriously, but I'm not -crazy- about it. I know what's real and what's not and don't mind admitting it.

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