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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-01-30 07:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #4409 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-01-31 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
It's really hard to figure out any of this. I don't think that they're as unhappy or as unloved as people make it out - they fight, but it's not exactly abnormal for even happy families to have fights and drama.

Really, reading the books, the primary reason for any unhappiness in the Weasley family is because of their relative poverty, especially for a family raising so many children under one roof. And it's almost impossible to figure out why they're poor, or what that even means, because there's really no such thing as a wizard economy presented in the books. What do they need to buy and how scarce is it? We have no idea. The real answer is, they're a large, poor, genteel family because that kind of family is a staple of fiction of the period that Rowling drew on for most of the structure of the early Harry Potter books.

Personally, I don't agree with what you're saying, but I think the HP books just don't really fill in enough detail to say that it's either right or wrong. We're all making most of it up based on how we want to see the books and what we like about them.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-31 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
They had to buy food, clothing, schoolbooks, wizarding supplies, etc. for a family of nine on one civil servant's salary. Their poverty isn't a mystery.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-31 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but. How much do those things cost to buy for wizards? Why? How much do they cost to produce? How much do wizardly civil servants make and why do they make that much? How does the Ministry of Magic run its treasury and finances? How scarce are resources for wizards in general, and why?

There's no answer to any of those questions (and that's not a problem unless you start asking questions like "why are the Weasleys poor").

(Anonymous) 2019-01-31 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Do wizards have public services like food stamps and such?

(Anonymous) 2019-01-31 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Is there inheritance tax on Malfoy Manor?

(Anonymous) 2019-01-31 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
LBR, wizards don't learn any goddamn maths
that's why they're poor
they don't know shit

(Anonymous) 2019-01-31 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely! To Harry, they were a warm, loving family which is what he really needed. To Hermione, Mrs Weasley was kind of mean, but got over it. There's no indication of genuine scarcity in the Wizarding World - why can't they just learn a spell and transfigure Ron's old robes, for example? - except in scarce big ticket items like overseas holidays and new Quidditch brooms, the kind of stuff a kid feels keenly but really isn't all that important overall.
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[personal profile] numb3r_5ev3n 2019-01-31 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think JK was imagining the kind of family she would have wanted to grow up in, TBH. I mean it's come out that Minerva MacGonagoll is sort of a self insert character and had her childhood (well, minus being a Halfblood witch.)
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-01-31 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I hadn't heard that. That's interesting, and it might explain McGonagall's relative lack of importance in later books compared to earlier ones.
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[personal profile] numb3r_5ev3n 2019-01-31 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Why it didn't become The Adventures of Minerva MacGonagall Which Harry Was Sometimes In (though that would be cool: a re imagining of the series from her viewpoint) :D yeah. I think with a less talented/self-aware writer, that may have been what we would have ended up with - but no, I think she was just using her own experiences as a jumping off point with MacGonagall. It's very interesting.

I think it is also an example of "this character had traits which defined them as a person that we never knew about because it never came up" like with Dumbledore being gay, MacGonagall had a very religious upbringing and was very religious, but it never comes up at all in the books.
Edited 2019-01-31 12:50 (UTC)