[ SECRET POST #4409 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4409 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

It's really hard to figure out any of this. I don't think that they're as unhappy or as unloved as people make it out - they fight, but it's not exactly abnormal for even happy families to have fights and drama.

Really, reading the books, the primary reason for any unhappiness in the Weasley family is because of their relative poverty, especially for a family raising so many children under one roof. And it's almost impossible to figure out why they're poor, or what that even means, because there's really no such thing as a wizard economy presented in the books. What do they need to buy and how scarce is it? We have no idea. The real answer is, they're a large, poor, genteel family because that kind of family is a staple of fiction of the period that Rowling drew on for most of the structure of the early Harry Potter books.

Personally, I don't agree with what you're saying, but I think the HP books just don't really fill in enough detail to say that it's either right or wrong. We're all making most of it up based on how we want to see the books and what we like about them.

[(Anonymous)]

They had to buy food, clothing, schoolbooks, wizarding supplies, etc. for a family of nine on one civil servant's salary. Their poverty isn't a mystery.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but. How much do those things cost to buy for wizards? Why? How much do they cost to produce? How much do wizardly civil servants make and why do they make that much? How does the Ministry of Magic run its treasury and finances? How scarce are resources for wizards in general, and why?

There's no answer to any of those questions (and that's not a problem unless you start asking questions like "why are the Weasleys poor").

[(Anonymous)]

LBR, wizards don't learn any goddamn maths
that's why they're poor
they don't know shit

[(Anonymous)]

Definitely! To Harry, they were a warm, loving family which is what he really needed. To Hermione, Mrs Weasley was kind of mean, but got over it. There's no indication of genuine scarcity in the Wizarding World - why can't they just learn a spell and transfigure Ron's old robes, for example? - except in scarce big ticket items like overseas holidays and new Quidditch brooms, the kind of stuff a kid feels keenly but really isn't all that important overall.

[numb3r_5ev3n]

I think JK was imagining the kind of family she would have wanted to grow up in, TBH. I mean it's come out that Minerva MacGonagoll is sort of a self insert character and had her childhood (well, minus being a Halfblood witch.)

[philstar22]

I hadn't heard that. That's interesting, and it might explain McGonagall's relative lack of importance in later books compared to earlier ones.

[(Anonymous)]

Molly is just... not a nice person, I think. I cannot think that a woman who would be cruel to a child because a gossip mag said she dated lots of boys, is a nice person. She was also very unkind to Fleur for no reason but her being pretty and stylish and French.
But the books are from Harry's point of view, and Harry would walk across hot coals for the approval of any vaguely friendly adult, so we don't really get so much of that Molly. It just... creeps in. Here and there.

[(Anonymous)]

The reason that she disliked Fleur was because Fleur was constantly arrogant and snobbish about everything she saw, and the reason that she disliked Hermione was... well... still not really fair, but more about the idea that she was playing with Harry's heart, or something like that, wasn't it?

[(Anonymous)]

"constantly arrogant and snobbish"

So... she was French.

[(Anonymous)]

i dated someone with a mother like molly and speaking from experience it was horrible and I pity her future daughter-in-law. Molly is immature, unpleasant, vicariously living through her children who will never be good enough but god forbid they try to sperate themselves from their unhealthy family dynamic.

[philstar22]

Add this to the fact that she assumes that just because she considers some other kids family (Harry, Hermione), that means she gets to boss them around and have a say in things having to do with them. And she actually bosses around everyone, not just family.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, it's a little defensible in the case of Harry who is a literal orphan

I dunno when it happened with Hermione

[(Anonymous)]

Also, wasn't there that time Molly showed up with Harry's school supplies and was like, 'yeah, I bought your school supplies (without being asked) (how did she get access to his bank account) (what the fuck is happening here)'?
so many questions, and all jk wants to talk about is how wizards poop

[philstar22]

Yup. I'd fallen out of love with Potter. But I've been rereading some fics lately, and I remember why I loved the universe. But there are fic authors who just did a much better job than JK on a lot of things.

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus fucking Christ.

[(Anonymous)]

I think Molly is a good mother, and her family is a pretty happy bunch.

Wait, let me finish. She is the mother of seven children. With that many kids, plus a husband who is often not there, mothers get into the habit if making decisions and moving on. It's a mode mothers get into to make life work. So it's a shock to her when she gets pushback, such as with Sirius. I didn't like the way she handled Sirius, but I can understand that in the heat if the moment, she tried to justify her choices without really realizing exactly what those choices looked like to the kids.

Fleur and Molly are a representation of the conflict between British and French cultures, so yes, Molly was snotty to Fleur because that's how the Brits were, often, to anyone French. I'm not supporting Molly on this one, but I think it was poor writing on Rowling's part.

Hermione is trickier. I sure Molly sent owls to Ron and Ginny, at least, and didn't get satisfactory answers so she let gossip form her opinion. Again, she's in decide and go mode, and long-term planning kind of goes out the window when that's the driving mode.

Of course, any opinion of the Weasley family is shaped by the experiences the reader has in their own life, and all these interpretations have validity. I just grew up in a large, chaotic family rather like the Weasleys, and there is no doubt that my mother loved all her children deeply and did the best she could with the little she had.

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing to add but a big +1 to your comment.

[(Anonymous)]

I sure Molly sent owls to Ron and Ginny, at least, and didn't get satisfactory answers so she let gossip form her opinion.

Oh what a load of nonsense. You honestly think she wrote to her kids, "Hey is it true Hermione's a slag?" and they wrote back "Dunno, maybe?"
Really?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, hey! It's a comment I made! Thanks, secret-maker!

[(Anonymous)]

Hooooly projecting, Batman.

[(Anonymous)]

lol misogynist with no reading comprehension

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Molly is a classic Smother. She would drive any normal family INSANE with how up in her kid's business she was. Just look at the Chocolate Easter Egg she made for Hermione when she thought she broke Harry's heart. While I can see OP's point she would be Harry's dream fill in Mom. He was so lacking in maternal love from age 1 that Molly would seem like a dream. While she will never be a favorite of mine I can forgive her for being a Smother for all the motherly love she gave Harry when he needed it the most.