[ SECRET POST #4414 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4414 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I feel like it's the victims' families who decide what kind of coverage is exploitative and what isn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, that Ted Bundy show really has people up in arms, huh?

I think sociopathy will always hold a certain fascination for people.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a big difference in being interested in mysteries and real life stories and being a fan of a real life serial killer.

[(Anonymous)]

It's more about fixating on true crime media so much that you forget that they are real brutal crimes and not an episode on SVU. Imagine asking someone what was their favourite episode of a true crime podcast? Gee, episode three had such a good case with all the mysterious details and stuff. Too bad for the victims, but that sure was an entertaining episode.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

IMO true crime stuff is more "rooting for" the investigators, honestly.

*shrug*

[(Anonymous)]

I like understanding what makes people tick, even if they're serial killers. I don't want to fuck them.

Re: *shrug*

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think this is unusual. Or at least I'm the same way. It's morbid curiosity, not fangirling.

That said, I was really put off by Netflix issuing us all a stern reminder that Ted Bundy Was Not Hot. Like really? We need huge entertainment corporations policing our morality now? It kind of nipped my curiosity in the bud in this case.

Re: *shrug*

[(Anonymous)]

This. I love shows on like... Investigation Discovery such as Forensic Files or Female Killers etc because it shows you the nitty gritty that goes on behind the 'chase' (ie FF), or it shows motivation (ie FK).

I don't LIKE any of the killers, nor do I want them to 'win', nor do I want to be within 09840239403 feet of them, so I am not sure how an interest in the behind-the-scenes of crime as it were is weird.

Re: *shrug*

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is the actual reason why people are interested in true crime. It kind of serves a similar function as horror does for horror fans - it's a safe way to explore their fears. I like trying to understand why people do what they do. I like that there are law enforcement agencies hunting serial killers and trying to get some measure of justice for victims as well as protecting future potential victims.

Re: *shrug*

[philstar22]

Yup. And, at least for me, I'm not even interested in the murders themselves. I'm interested in two things: how these guys got caught and the psychology of why killers do what they do. Psychology and sociology fascinate me.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, first of all 10/10 on the picture choice, I snorted.

Secondly, I get the same feel sometimes when a few of my friends talk about true crime and all the podcasts they enjoy and stuff. None of them are really in the "finding criminals sexy" camp though, more that their morbid fascination feels invasive of the families and loved ones of the victims. I don't feel like they're doing anything spectacularly wrong, nor do I fear they're going to commit any crimes themselves. It's just that, like, if I get murdered, I don't like the idea of my friends getting interviewed on a podcast about it, or the details of my life being discussed by strangers who only care about me because something horrible happened to me. TV shows and documentaries about true crime make me uncomfortable anymore because it's all I can think about while watching them.

Wow apparently I have some feelings about this. Anyway, I sympathize and thanks for coming to my ted talk

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah you don't...actually listen to these podcasts or know anything about them, do you? In the case of the missing person's podcasts, several times the victim's family have reached out to them for more exposure. In the case of the Millbrooks twins, the families were reaching out because due to racism, the police completely. In other cases (like Serial!) the podcast actually made the cases be revisited in court due to the publicity it brought.

Please actually do some research before you form opinions, okay?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm personally not a fan of true crime because it just freaks me out too much to know those things. However, the small amount of true crime stuff I HAVE looked into hasn't been exploitative, just informative. And as other anon said, more often than not the families are reaching out, and very little is released without the family's permission. The details still freak me out, sure, but that doesn't make the genre bad as a whole.

[(Anonymous)]

I watch them the same way I watch documentaries on natural disasters. I'm horrified and fascinated that things like that happen. I think it's very unfortunate that having new series come out about murders might be very upsetting for any living family members, but at the same time, I don't believe that it's ever far from their minds. I've seen a few series that interview relatives and they seemed almost relieved to be able to talk about their family members and share more about who they were so that people understand that they weren't just victim #6 of a famous serial killer. I do think that gets very lost in the initial journalistic approach to recent murders, and that it must be distressing to have people remember the murderer but not your family member who lost their life.

Side note: I don't want to fuck serial killers. I think Ted Bundy was an awful person and I'm very confused about his weird groupies.

Nah.

[(Anonymous)]

Just like people who are into WWII history aren't one step from Hitler fanboys.

I mean, those types do exist, but I would posit that those particular people, the ones who want to stan murderers, were already delusional and/or hate-filled and just found someone to hang it on.

Most people that I know who are into true crime want to understand why - why this person did this, why it took them so long to get caught, how the investigation worked, what it says about the justice system.

Re: Nah.

[(Anonymous)]

Most people that I know who are into true crime want to understand why - why this person did this, why it took them so long to get caught, how the investigation worked, what it says about the justice system.

Yep. This describes me, right here. Plus, I find the methods that investigators have used throughout the decades interesting, too-the changes in technology, how people in the past solved cases without some of that technology, the fact that people can take the tiniest detail from a crime scene and reveal a whole lot about the killer or the victim along the way, stuff like that. I like that these shows let us see just how much time and work goes into this job, and it adds to my respect for the people who are dedicated to these kinds of difficult jobs.

I definitely won't argue, though, that some true crime shows/documentaries can indeed be very exploitative and lurid, and can mess with society's perception of how crime solving really works in ways that can screw up and mess with cases (especially with the ones that become national news and play out before our eyes). And I understand some of the theories and reasons behind that psychology, but it still doesn't make the serial killer groupies any less bizarre or disturbing to hear about.

Re: Nah.

[(Anonymous)]

Just like people who are into WWII history aren't one step from Hitler fanboys.

As someone who is into WWII history, this is unfortunately kind of a bad example. Obviously, it's not true of everyone who's interested in the subject, but it's really, really common. One step or two.

Re: Nah.

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of people into WWII history are one step from Hitler fanboys, though. And a lot of Civil War buffs are very into white supremacy. Definitely not all, and definitely not most academics, but it's really, really common - much more common than true crime fans being serial killer groupies, I think.

Re: Nah.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

There's a HUGE difference between finding crime as a subject interesting and full-on absolving and obsessing over the killers themselves. That OP doesn't get the difference is concerning.

[(Anonymous)]

That's your opinion and you're welcome to it, but I think it's a stupid opinion.

[(Anonymous)]

OP, you strike me as horribly ignorant and pretentious.

[bio_obscura]

I definitely love listening to/reading about bizarre true crime and yet have no desire to watch films that glorify serial killers (the new Bundy movie and the last two Dahmer movies come to mind). I think it's less that I think the first is more morally righteous than the second, just that I find the second boring. I heard someone liken the dumb fast cuts and record needle-drops of the new Bundy movie to a rockstar biopic and that's exactly what I wouldn't want to see. They already make every Cool Musician Biopic the same, now they have to follow the same formula with mass murderers too?

[(Anonymous)]

God, I love Poirot. And Cracker, Frost, Inspector Morse, Miss Marple, Vera, etc.

British mysteries are such top tier entertainment.

[(Anonymous)]

Line of Duty! Do you get that one?