[ SECRET POST #4414 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4414 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm curious how many of the "all soldiers are evil" folks here are aware that many, many soldiers come from poor or lower class backgrounds and the military is pretty much the only feasible road to a better life that some of them have available to them. It's quite easy to look down from your white middle class woke-ness without considering how few opportunities the other half has to get a leg up, or how easy it is for the powers that be to convince them that what they're doing is just and good when it's the only real chance they've got.

[(Anonymous)]

This is why pacifism has to involve several areas of social and economic improvement to be anything other than bullshit. I feel bad for how badly soldiers are treated by our government, even if I think many of them enlist because they really want to, some don't, and it seems it's a lot easier to cling to their ideals than admit they've gotten fucked over.

[(Anonymous)]

Dude I'm poor as fuck, quit assuming I'm middle class just because it means you can look down on me. I have literally considered prostitution and shit like that to make ends meet, there's a reason I refuse military and it's because you have to be willing to put aside your morals to do it.

[(Anonymous)]

And some people might not have any choice but to "set aside their morals" (assuming it even conflicts with their morals to begin with - you're making some seriously shitty assumptions about other people in situations akin to yours, fyi) on account of having people besides themselves to take care of.

[(Anonymous)]

You really are determined to look down on ayrt, aren't you? How do you know THEY don't have folk depending on them?

[(Anonymous)]

In the US and other poverty-stricken shitholes, yes. Not necessarily the case for most other countries.

[(Anonymous)]

Classism at its finest.

People are also forgetting that mandatory military service is still a thing in some places. As usual, only the US exists to the internet.

[(Anonymous)]

Not any of the anons in this thread so far, but of the three men in my family who were in the military, my dad was drafted into Vietnam and died of drug addiction, schizophrenia kicked off by drugs, and, ultimately, suicide. My mom’s brother joined up to follow in his dad’s footsteps because it had been his father’s ticket out of poverty, and drank himself to death at 47. His dad joined to escape poverty and became a Rear Admiral—and a monster who raped his wife and kids and also drank himself to death, and was ultimately responsible for the deaths of his wife and two of his three kids. My dad’s surviving brother insists he was an entirely different person before the war and it broke him. My mom’s surviving brother said his dad loved the military because he loved having power to hurt and kill people.

Just because military service is mandatory at different times or in different places, or has been some people’s ticket out of poverty, doesn’t mean war is good or justifiable on those grounds.

[(Anonymous)]

And then there's the one who are conscripted and never chose to be there.

Also, infantry soldiers tend to be very young.