[ SECRET POST #4415 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4415 ⌋

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Comments

[philstar22]

The thing is, the EU never was canon. I love the EU. Some parts of it are among my favorite Star Wars things. But it was never canon.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the idea of "canon" is very tricky and I don't know what authority you're basing that on. But I know for a fact that the idea that the Star Wars EU was canon was widespread, and practically universal, pretty much right up until Disney took over. I don't know if I ever saw an explicit source for that idea, but it was completely the conventional wisdom, if someone had said that EU stuff wasn't canon everyone would have thought they were crazy.

[philstar22]

I'm basing it on the fact that Lucas was the boss and got to say what was and wasn't canon. He sold the rights and now Disney gets to say. But Lucas was always clear that the EU was not canon.

[(Anonymous)]

But Lucas was always clear that the EU was not canon.

I don't think that's exactly the whole story. Lucas was always the person with the right to decide what was or was not canon. And it was always totally clear that any story that Lucas came up with superceded any other part of the SW universe.

But, AFAIK, he never explicitly said that the EU stuff wasn't canon until 2014. He just ignored it, which allowed for this sort of policy of benign neglect where people generally assumed that things were canon unless contradicted by something in a George Lucas story. And that's very much the attitude that fans ran with pretty much until 2014.

[philstar22]

He did talk about the EU before 2014, though.

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865602712/Lucasfilm-sets-record-straight-on-Star-Wars-Expanded-Universe.html

https://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/02/20/star-wars-lucasfilm-legends-expanded-universe-george-lucas/

Both of these articles mention statements he made prior to 2014 saying that while he loved that the EU expanded on his work, they were not canon.

[(Anonymous)]

Both of these articles mention statements he made prior to 2014 saying that while he loved that the EU expanded on his work, they were not canon.

I don't see that? I might be missing something, please mention it if I am.

The first one (Deseret News) mentions that Lucas had always felt free to overwrite things from the EU. Which was true, and everyone knew it, in part because (as the article points out) the prequel trilogies did overwrite stuff from the EU. But that doesn't mean that the rest of the things in the EU were un-canon'd as well. And that's definitely not the attitude that fandom took at the time.

The second one (comicbook.com) mentions Dave Filoni saying, in 2017 after the EU had been de-canonized, that this is how he and Lucas had always felt about it. But Filoni saying in 2017 that he and Lucas hadn't considered it canon before 2014 is not the same as Lucas or anyone else saying before 2014 that it wasn't canon.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't figure out what you mean by "not canon" if you don't mean "the script writers feel free to ignore or contradict it" ...